Jason Todd: Robin, Red Hood, Arkham Knight Appreciation 2020

[RedBird]

The last time Isabel was around, it felt like Jason was too distracted by other things (Roy's death, his return to Gotham, concluding the Penguin case so that the Su sisters could start a new and legal life) to really be interested in a relationship. And it seemed like Isabel felt and accepted that.

That's an interesting take too. Considering how cool she was with Jason skipping town and leaving Dog behind, you might be right about that.

[Dark_Tzitzimine]

The last time Isabel was around, it felt like Jason was too distracted by other things (Roy's death, his return to Gotham, concluding the Penguin case so that the Su sisters could start a new and legal life) to really be interested in a relationship. And it seemed like Isabel felt and accepted that.

I hope it won't be weird when Isabel and Artemis (and probably Essence too) meet for the first time.

I felt the opposite, precisely because of the circumstances, Jason intentionally rekindled his relationship with Isabel, who in turn, accepted his advances.

[Zaresh]

The last time Isabel was around, it felt like Jason was too distracted by other things (Roy's death, his return to Gotham, concluding the Penguin case so that the Su sisters could start a new and legal life) to really be interested in a relationship. And it seemed like Isabel felt and accepted that.

I hope it won't be weird when Isabel and Artemis (and probably Essence too) meet for the first time.

Haha. I wonder how it will work. I guess Art and Jason could end being platonic; Isabel may be actually an evil skinwalker; and Essence thinks Jason is evil and out of his head, and she's probably very angry. What a picture to behold!

[Tomar8989]

Haha. I wonder how it will work. I guess Art and Jason could end being platonic; Isabel may be actually an evil skinwalker; and Essence thinks Jason is evil and out of his head, and she's probably very angry. What a picture to behold!

Scotty did say that Artemis is Jasons fav girl on twitter so they are most likely endgame with the backing of the fans. Also there is a reason why issues 26 through 37 sucked. Without Artemis and Bizz the comic feels flat in some ways. Even in the begining of issue 41 it shows Jason thinking about the kiss with Artemis and even in 40 when Jason sees them , his mind goes back to the same kiss. Roy made the comment that Jason has it bad for Artemis, as readers we have never seen Jason fall this hard for a woman despite him being with isabel. Lastly. Jason kissed her again although to get her out of mind control but the intent was there to reconnect. Surprisingly lodell or editorial is pointing in the direction of more than a platonic relationship with Artemis.

[Zaresh]

Scotty did say that Artemis is Jasons fav girl on twitter so they are most likely endgame with the backing of the fans. Also there is a reason why issues 26 through 37 sucked. Without Artemis and Bizz the comic feels flat in some ways. Even in the begining of issue 41 it shows Jason thinking about the kiss with Artemis and even in 40 when Jason sees them , his mind goes back to the same kiss. Roy made the comment that Jason has it bad for Artemis, as readers we have never seen Jason fall this hard for a woman despite him being with isabel. Lastly. Jason kissed her again although to get her out of mind control but the intent was there to reconnect. Surprisingly lodell or editorial is pointing in the direction of more than a platonic relationship with Artemis.

Ok, I trust your post. I hope they won't let us down :3.

[Dark_Tzitzimine]

I'd temper my expectations for, well, pretty much any future story developments, Lobdell has said many times that he doesn't like to plan stories too far ahead since he believes stories must be as unpredictable as real life and ultimately he's at the whims of editorial and with 5G looming on the horizon, there's nothing set in stone.

[Tomar8989]

I'd temper my expectations for, well, pretty much any future story developments, Lobdell has said many times that he doesn't like to plan stories too far ahead since he believes stories must be as unpredictable as real life and ultimately he's at the whims of editorial and with 5G looming on the horizon, there's nothing set in stone.

I agree somewhat but it's a business at the end of the day, issues 26- 37 didn't really sell well or gained the attention that the previous issues did. At one point Red Hood and the Outlaws was one of the top selling comics in rebirth. Editorial was definitely a fan of Jason and Artemis being together as more than just friends as evidence with the writing of the previous issues and even the latest issue coming up. One of the things that made the previous issues so great was the chemistry between the team and the writing. Which of course made the most money and unless it's a serious reboot of the universe like rebirth I doubt the Red Hood Comics are going to change drastically anytime soon. Plus lodbell would have had to plan Artemis and Bizzaro coming back eventually,editorial gave him free rein since August 2018 lol but with the sells not being what they used to be he certainly would have had to bring the whole team back together. I even saw Reddit post of people who stopped reading the comics after issue 26 and now we're coming back to read it again

[Tomar8989]

Ok, I trust your post. I hope they won't let us down :3.

I certainly hope so too although it wouldn't really make sense from a writeing standpoint to suddenly make Isabel his one true love despite his history with Artemis and her being back. Also to be honest no one really cares about Isabel I think there are more people in favor of Jason being with Supergirl or even Rose rather than Isabel lol

[Zaresh]

That reminds me, do we have the sales for December yet? (RHATO 41 was technically a December issue)

[Dark_Tzitzimine]

I agree somewhat but it's a business at the end of the day, issues 26- 37 didn't really sell well or gained the attention that the previous issues did. At one point Red Hood and the Outlaws was one of the top selling comics in rebirth. Editorial was definitely a fan of Jason and Artemis being together as more than just friends as evidence with the writing of the previous issues and even the latest issue coming up. One of the things that made the previous issues so great was the chemistry between the team and the writing. Which of course made the most money and unless it's a serious reboot of the universe like rebirth I doubt the Red Hood Comics are going to change drastically anytime soon. Plus lodbell would have had to plan Artemis and Bizzaro coming back eventually,editorial gave him free rein since August 2018 lol but with the sells not being what they used to be he certainly would have had to bring the whole team back together. I even saw Reddit post of people who stopped reading the comics after issue 26 and now we're coming back to read it again

Lobdell has anything but free reign on the title, and Jason went solo as a shakeup to increase sales, since the Dark Trinity was in a downward spiral. Something that it worked for a while before dropping again.

[Sergard]

I certainly hope so too although it wouldn't really make sense from a writeing standpoint to suddenly make Isabel his one true love despite his history with Artemis and her being back. Also to be honest no one really cares about Isabel I think there are more people in favor of Jason being with Supergirl or even Rose rather than Isabel lol

To be fair, Isabel is a side character in RHatO. So people who could like Jason and Isabel are already restricted within the group of Jason fans. People in favor of, for example, Supergirl could be Supergirl fans who like the idea of Kara dating Jason or Jason fans who like the idea of Jason dating Kara.

Personally, I learned to like Isabel as a character - but I'm not in favor of her being Jason's love interest. Isabel is a civilian - and she already had to suffer from a Joker attack and was involuntarily part of a space mission. A life with Jason is just too dangerous for her. There are DC characters that work great in a relationship with a civilian but I don't believe that Jason is one of them.

That reminds me, do we have the sales for December yet? (RHATO 41 was technically a December issue)

I haven't seen any numbers yet.
Does anyone remember if December issues, that were pushed to January, were listed in the December sales last year or not?

[Zaresh]

I haven't seen any numbers yet.
Does anyone remember if December issues, that were pushed to January, were listed in the December sales last year or not?

No December issues in January that I know (edit: I mean, not without delays). This year has been tricky, because Wednesday fell in January First and DC had a few series that were a bit behind their original/beginning of the year schedule, like RHATO (or so I think). BUT I remember Batgirl's issue for December 2018 being pushed to be released in January. And it does appears in the table of January 2019 that they have in Comichron (no Batgirl issue for the previous month table).

[Tomar8989]

To be fair, Isabel is a side character in RHatO. So people who could like Jason and Isabel are already restricted within the group of Jason fans. People in favor of, for example, Supergirl could be Supergirl fans who like the idea of Kara dating Jason or Jason fans who like the idea of Jason dating Kara.



Personally, I learned to like Isabel as a character - but I'm not in favor of her being Jason's love interest. Isabel is a civilian - and she already had to suffer from a Joker attack and was involuntarily part of a space mission. A life with Jason is just too dangerous for her. There are DC characters that work great in a relationship with a civilian but I don't believe that Jason is one of them.



I haven't seen any numbers yet.
Does anyone remember if December issues, that were pushed to January, were listed in the December sales last year or not?

True I dont hate her but your right she is a no go for Jason as his life as a super hero puts her in danger and most likely not what she wants in life.

[RedBird]

Wasn't Isabel under the impression that Jason had quit the vigilante business and had settled down for good as a casino owner? Surely the deception will come into play eventually.

[Sergard]

Wasn't Isabel under the impression that Jason had quit the vigilante business and had settled down for good as a casino owner? Surely the deception will come into play eventually.

Yeah, she was and probably still is. But who knows, maybe Jason was actually thinking about settling down and only wanted to finish the stuff with Cobblepot - and then Essence appeared and Cobblepot escaped. And then Lex Luthor appeared. Because of course everything has to explode within a night.