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    Quote Originally Posted by pkingdom View Post
    Its kind of sad to say, but Storm has gotten more exposure and screentime as part of Black Panther's stories than she has with the X men for a while now. She's been kind of a non-entity, or only a 'big sister type' to whoever is actually leading a team
    Agreed!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by butterflykyss View Post
    I agree here 100%, especially the part about Carol. Readers who didnt like Storm with BP always pin her lack of importance to their marriage but they haven't been together since 2011. What's the excuse now that she hasn't gotten any focus in the xbooks ? can't blame tchalla there.
    Co-signed!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvell2100 View Post
    For one issue only. Then it's back to Kate and Emma.
    Yup..storm and Bishop return to lackey status.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    Are the mutants having orgies on Krakoa????
    Lool.....lololol!!!!

    Sarcasm supreme!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind Rider View Post
    A light interview with Vita Ayala on Marauders #13 for those interested:

    https://io9.gizmodo.com/x-of-swords-...1845316824/amp

    Nothing most didnít already glean but some insight into the approach to create the conflict.
    "Reasoning that she really doesnít have the time to wait for TíChalla, Storm waits until the dead of night to set off to simply steal Skybreaker, even though she knows doing so could very well set off a war between Wakanda and Krakoa."

    "Sensible hero that he is, TíChalla lets Storm leave with Skybreaker because to stop her would potentially put Wakanda and the rest of the world in danger, but the king also resolves to destroy the gate directly linking Wakanda to Krakoa, signaling that the nations are no longer on the best of terms."

    Epic quadru-triple face palm here. :Siiiiiiiiiiigh*

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    we should all voice our opinions on several social media platforms like facebook, IG, and especially twitter with how they keep playing with Storm in our faces and continue making her a sub par mutant even tho she's an Omega and Goddess.

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    Until very recently X-Men writers, editors, and artists were all straight white men. Women and POC characters clearly suffers for it. As Marvel becomes internally more diverse you’ll see huge changes. The X-office was all white when it ignored Storm’s marriage to the Black Panther. Look at Marauders. Look at the amazing job Vita did with Storm in one issue where the complexities of her relationship with the Wakandan royal family and the X-Men were acknowledged. By making Storm an integral part of X of Ssirds they are finally going somewhere with her. House Of X was a reboot of the X-Men and the focus was on the older generations of mutants coming together for their vision for mutantkind. Xavier, Magneto, Moira, Apocalypse, White Queen, Sinister. Now they are getting around to doing good things with other characters. Hellions has done a great job with Psylocke/Kwannon and Greycrow, an Asian and a Native American.

    We should be happy the X-office acknowledged Storm can physically fight and is a warrior woman. She kicks butt. The Storm one shot was good too. And yes, they actually acknowledged her godhood and mystical ties.

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    This review gives a beautiful recap of why I did not like this issue. Spot on accurate:

    https://www.ndjonesparanormalpleasur...ers-13-review/
    ALL HAIL THE HADARI YAO!!!! NOW AGAIN THE ONE TRUE AND ONLY GODDESS OF THE X-MEN AS CLAREMONT INTENDED!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pkingdom View Post
    Its kind of sad to say, but Storm has gotten more exposure and screentime as part of Black Panther's stories than she has with the X men for a while now. She's been kind of a non-entity, or only a 'big sister type' to whoever is actually leading a team

    absolutely. that's the irony of it all. the fans that only want to see her in the xmen then complain when she has no real or meaningful characterization but say hiw horrible bp is when that book has done a billion times more for the character than the xbooks. so very funny lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by jwatson View Post
    Isn't it a little hypocritical to pin all haters of the relationship on one thing. That's exactly what is being done to those he didn't like vita issue. I've said time and again Coates messed it up for me and people are mum. Vita did nothing here that was worse than the betrayal of offering your man to another woman because he basic
    I'm not sure I follow you. storm fsns who hated the marriage blame her lack of inclusion within the xbooks due to being used in another book. this is the common argument I've seen from those fans and its why they champion this issue. but the stories the xwriters chose to write after the annulment had nothing to do wiyh them being married. the xwriters simply did not want to write any substantive stories that progressed her beyond her status quo within the books. in fact ehst stories after the marriage was annulled was she the focus that gave her development akin to what we saw in bp? not sure what the inconsequential conversation she had with nakia has to do with that point too.
    ALL HAIL THE HADARI YAO!!!! NOW AGAIN THE ONE TRUE AND ONLY GODDESS OF THE X-MEN AS CLAREMONT INTENDED!!!!!

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    Have y'all ever thought about applying to be an X-Writer
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    Quote Originally Posted by WallStreeter View Post
    Until very recently X-Men writers, editors, and artists were all straight white men. Women and POC characters clearly suffers for it. As Marvel becomes internally more diverse you’ll see huge changes. The X-office was all white when it ignored Storm’s marriage to the Black Panther. Look at Marauders. Look at the amazing job Vita did with Storm in one issue where the complexities of her relationship with the Wakandan royal family and the X-Men were acknowledged. By making Storm an integral part of X of Ssirds they are finally going somewhere with her. House Of X was a reboot of the X-Men and the focus was on the older generations of mutants coming together for their vision for mutantkind. Xavier, Magneto, Moira, Apocalypse, White Queen, Sinister. Now they are getting around to doing good things with other characters. Hellions has done a great job with Psylocke/Kwannon and Greycrow, an Asian and a Native American.

    We should be happy the X-office acknowledged Storm can physically fight and is a warrior woman. She kicks butt. The Storm one shot was good too. And yes, they actually acknowledged her godhood and mystical ties.
    I don't understand your point. A majority of the X writers are still straight white men. Marauders is normally written by one, they just brought Vita on to blow up the Storm/BP relationship. We've been told how important Storm is going to be, but that hasn't played out, and the story is, again, written and shepherded by straight white men. Almost all of the actual important characters are white men, and a couple white women. Greycrow is just going along with the flow in Hellions, and all of the important decisions and actions are made by others. If the minority characters just have to pick up table scraps in 2nd and 3rd string books instead of the headline titles, how is that any different than how the X office has been run for years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pkingdom View Post
    I don't understand your point. A majority of the X writers are still straight white men. Marauders is normally written by one, they just brought Vita on to blow up the Storm/BP relationship. We've been told how important Storm is going to be, but that hasn't played out, and the story is, again, written and shepherded by straight white men. Almost all of the actual important characters are white men, and a couple white women. Greycrow is just going along with the flow in Hellions, and all of the important decisions and actions are made by others. If the minority characters just have to pick up table scraps in 2nd and 3rd string books instead of the headline titles, how is that any different than how the X office has been run for years?

    Nothing but fact and truth!! I sincerely think the xoffices were tired of people asking about Tchaala/Ororo/Hadari Yao. They needed to nip it in the bud (as Barney Fife would say) and do it in a way that wouldn't get the most backlash. Having Duggan on the issue would have been met with "this is racist" criticism but putting a person of color would fix that issue in their eyes, or so they thought.
    ALL HAIL THE HADARI YAO!!!! NOW AGAIN THE ONE TRUE AND ONLY GODDESS OF THE X-MEN AS CLAREMONT INTENDED!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by butterflykyss View Post
    Nothing but fact and truth!! I sincerely think the xoffices were tired of people asking about Tchaala/Ororo/Hadari Yao. They needed to nip it in the bud (as Barney Fife would say) and do it in a way that wouldn't get the most backlash. Having Duggan on the issue would have been met with "this is racist" criticism but putting a person of color would fix that issue in their eyes, or so they thought.
    At least someone is able to acknowledge this. Vita more than likely wanted to write this because I could tell from their whole vibe she probably didn't like T'Challa/Storm as a couple. That and her Shuri issues from her ongoing. But of course the X-office would jump at the opportunity to have a black (woman? person?) take the reins for the one issue that substantially focuses on "the blacks" and cause strife. If Duggan wrote what Vita did there'd be more push back and Marvel is smart enough now to realize that. That doesn't make it right though, because people ideally should be able to call out contrived writing whenever they see it, no matter who the writer is and the racial or sexual identity of the characters they're writing. It's all about marketing and this issue hit all the standard things that would excite the fanbase. A black writer? Check. A black woman "liberating" herself from a "toxic", incompetent black man? Check. Shitting on Black Panther and making Wakanda look bad? Check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by butterflykyss View Post
    I agree here 100%, especially the part about Carol. Readers who didnt like Storm with BP always pin her lack of importance to their marriage but they haven't been together since 2011. What's the excuse now that she hasn't gotten any focus in the xbooks ? can't blame tchalla there.
    Actually, you kind of can. IIRC Gerry Duggan has specifically mentioned in interviews that he was told he wasn't able to do much with Storm until there were no longer plans for her in the BP book, and was excited to be able to do more with her.

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    think on the bright side, if Duggan had written this it would have been worse.

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