Ororo Munroe: Storm Appreciation 2020

[yogaflame]

So, this is including women from India as black women? It certainly is debatable, but an uncommon point of view.

[Havok83]

Indians are not black

[Will Evans]

Was Charlotte Jones a Claremazon?

[Paleo_Rage]

Well, I did make a list of the most frequently appearing black female heroes/allies in Marvel comics a while back. These aren’t all mutants, but I felt it was worth mentioning regardless: https://comicvine.gamespot.com/profi...esallie/77687/

1. Storm
2. Spectrum
3. Misty Knight
4. M
5. Glory Grant
6. Oya
7. Frenzy
8. Shuri
9. Ironheart
10. Silhouette
11. Bling!
12. Moon Girl
13. Cecilia Reyes
14. Davida Kirby
15. Dr. Kavita Rao
16. Queen Mother
17. Heather McDaniel Hudson
18. Nancy Whitehead
19. Emily Preston
20. Nightshade
21. Shard
22. Okoye
23. Angel Salvadore
24. Claire Temple
25. Stevie Hunter
26. Onome
27. Pathway
28. Krystalin
29. Cipher
30. Queen Divine Justice
31. Charlotte Jones
32. Aneka
33. Friction
34. Gena Landers
35. Melita Garner
36. Network Nina
37. Carrie Alexander
38. Venus Dee Milo
39. Tempo
40. Debrii
41. Tamara Devoux
42. Alloy
43. Murmur
44. Charmer
45. Detective Rebecca Nales
46. Louise Hastings
47. Tara Tam
48. Cuckoo
49. Mary Mahajan
50. Sun Girl
51. Timeslip
52. Trinary
53. Jackie McGee
54. Breeze James
55. Gorilla Girl
56. Priya Aggarwal
57. Twilight
58. Anesthesia Jones
59. Detective Sykes
60. Katherine Glover
61. Lashayla Smith
62. Taina Miranda
63. Tante Mattie
64. Zephyr
65. Ladyhawk
66. Glenda Sandoval
67. Longstrike
68. Adept
69. Decay
70. Foxfire
71. Hub
72. Kymera
73. Lightbright
74. Fantomelle
75. Pinch
76. Aliyah Bishop
77. Meteorite
78. Playback
79. Silencer
80. Becka Munroe
81. Cassandra Locke
82. Ivory
83. Jubulile van Scotter
84. Nina the Conjuror
85. No-Name

I appreciate this list to thank you but Trinary and Timeslip are South Asian. They are not Black.

[yogaflame]

I appreciate this list to thank you but Trinary and Timeslip are South Asian. They are not Black.

Dr. Kavita Rao is also from India.

[Havok83]

Was Charlotte Jones a Claremazon?

No. He didnt create nor defined her

[Paleo_Rage]

Was Charlotte Jones a Claremazon?

I mean.. very light.. She was Angel walking on the wild side. I think its interesting if you look at his love interest Pre Blue/Metal Wings and Post Blue Metal Wings.

[yogaflame]

Indians are not black

The earliest populations in India were definitely black. Some isolated pockets of them exist to this day, particularly in the islands off the coast. One could consider modern populations as mixed descendants, with the Dravidians retaining a stronger lineage vs more Iranic/Persian northern Indians. It certainly isn't a popular convention, but is more true than it is not.

[Electricmastro]

So, this is including women from India as black women? It certainly is debatable, but an uncommon point of view.

It’s interesting, because I think recall showing the list to others encouraging me to put dark-skinned people from India, Cuba, Saudi Arabia, and such on the basis of the idea that all black people aren’t born in Africa, and don’t directly have to be of African descent either, and that there are some African-Americans people would accuse of being lighter-skinned anyhow, so I caved and put them on, but in seeing this response now, I suppose I could remove Kavita, Trinary and Timeslip based on this.

[Havok83]

The earliest populations in India were definitely black. Some isolated pockets of them exist to this day, particularly in the islands off the coast. One could consider modern populations as mixed descendants, with the Dravidians retaining a stronger lineage vs more Iranic/Persian northern Indians. It certainly isn't a popular convention, but is more true than it is not.

You know exactly what is being referenced when we are talking about black heroes here and none of these Indian characters qualify. You can find black people in China. That doesnt mean that Chinese people are considered black. A few isolated cases does not represent an entire group as a whole. Its not like the US, where the term is largely used which has a much greater mix of different ethnic groups such that it carries more weight

It’s interesting, because I think recall showing the list to others encouraging me to put dark-skinned people from India, Cuba, Saudi Arabia, and such on the basis of the idea that all black people aren’t born in Africa, and don’t directly have to be of African descent either, and that there are some African-Americans people would accuse of being lighter-skinned, so I caved and put them on, but in seeing this response now, I suppose I could remove Kavita, Trinary and Timeslip based on this now.

I would consider them people of color, but definitely not black

[Will Evans]

Penance (the original)
The M twins

[yogaflame]

Well, the real trick is that all continents were inhabited by 'black' peoples first, and all modern humans descend from them at some level. Yes, modern Chinese are pretty far from their Afro-Asiatic ancestors, but they are still 'high yellow' if you know what I mean... But yes, as conventional, pervasive ideas, the black roots of Arabs, East Asians, and South Asians are largely ignored. But still, an argument can be made, especially if biracial people are usually still considered 'black'.

[Will Evans]

Stevie Hunter should be included. Best x-woman.

[Electricmastro]

Particularly worth mentioning is the rarely mentioned Krystalin, who was a black woman that was a member of the X-Men, but in the future on an alternate Earth.

[Will Evans]

Particularly worth mentioning is the rarely mentioned Twilight, who was a black woman that was a member of the X-Men, but in the future on an alternate Earth.

If Hickman found someway to involve this team into his arc, I would burst.