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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    Even if this were the case, Major X travelled back to a pre-Disassembled X-men, and the X-men were operating out of the Mutant Education and Outreach school in Central Park, not the old Institute for Gifted Youngers in Westchester. Your post only reiterates that the Westchester school did not exist at any point during either time so Major X directly conflicts with the 616 continuity
    Oh please, all continuity is a mess.

    Major X was obviously written as if the X-Men he interacted with were the mainline X-Men somewhere right around Disassembled(let's say just before X-Man's shenanigans start off, but after X-Men Red).
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    Quote Originally Posted by yogaflame View Post
    Oh please, all continuity is a mess.

    Major X was obviously written as if the X-Men he interacted with were the mainline X-Men somewhere right around Disassembled(let's say just before X-Man's shenanigans start off, but after X-Men Red).
    Major X directly conflicts with continuity and it hasnt been referenced anywhere outside of that book since then. Until then, I will treat it as noncanon. I dont expect it to unless Liefield returns again and tries to make him happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    Major X directly conflicts with continuity and it hasnt been referenced anywhere outside of that book since then. Until then, I will treat it as noncanon. I dont expect it to unless Liefield returns again and tries to make him happen
    Quote Originally Posted by yogaflame View Post
    Oh please, all continuity is a mess.

    Major X was obviously written as if the X-Men he interacted with were the mainline X-Men somewhere right around Disassembled(let's say just before X-Man's shenanigans start off, but after X-Men Red).
    Hmmm you both make VERY GOOD arguments.

    I agree Continuity is and Was Shit back then. But this is hard to say.....

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    I have no dog in this race but just to be clear I thought that entire major x ish storyline was hot bull manure trash. that said, I'm sure the writer intended for it to be canon but I for one ignored it. just as I've ignored dickeys retelling of storms origin story.
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    top 10 most impressive uses of storms powers

    https://www.cbr.com/x-men-most-impre...storms-powers/


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    The writer did a good job of getting across how powerful she is, while still missing out on some of her greatest feats. She's that powerful!
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    Quote Originally Posted by yogaflame View Post
    The writer did a good job of getting across how powerful she is, while still missing out on some of her greatest feats. She's that powerful!
    what are some feats you would have included?
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    Quote Originally Posted by butterflykyss View Post
    what are some feats you would have included?
    KO Sinister by interrupting his brain.

    Galactic core Brood-transformation reversal.

    Overpowering the Trion gods and repairing their ruptured dimension.

    Those are the most obvious. I liked what the writer talked about, but there could be some other fine points(like her EMP's, across planet targeted attacks, tracking/sky topography, etc).
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    Quote Originally Posted by butterflykyss View Post
    top 10 most impressive uses of storms powers

    https://www.cbr.com/x-men-most-impre...storms-powers/


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    Renumber. Drop #1 to #2. Delete #2 and put Storm becomes a goddess in Black Panther as #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by butterflykyss View Post
    top 10 most impressive uses of storms powers

    https://www.cbr.com/x-men-most-impre...storms-powers/


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    Not Bad. Actually pretty Good.

    I would Drop Numbers: 6 and 7 and replace them with:

    -Storm manipulating large bodies of Water
    And the Second
    -Storm can sense you and attack you across the Planet.

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    #7 is pure trash.
    1: It was explained in issue how forge was able to "unblock" Storm's powers, by using a reverse tech of the initial gun that took away her powers.
    2: Her lightning only provided the energy needed to power the pentagram portal Forge created to get back to Earth. It was Forge's magic that got them back not Storm's power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yogaflame View Post
    KO Sinister by interrupting his brain.

    Galactic core Brood-transformation reversal.

    Overpowering the Trion gods and repairing their ruptured dimension.

    Those are the most obvious. I liked what the writer talked about, but there could be some other fine points(like her EMP's, across planet targeted attacks, tracking/sky topography, etc).

    yea I would agree that these three should definitely have been included but which on the list would you get rid of to add the three you mentioned?
    Quote Originally Posted by LordAllMIghty View Post
    Renumber. Drop #1 to #2. Delete #2 and put Storm becomes a goddess in Black Panther as #1
    abso-freaking-lutely!! I'm not sure why they included stormcaster especially that version of when she used it.

    Quote Originally Posted by stormphoenix View Post
    Not Bad. Actually pretty Good.

    I would Drop Numbers: 6 and 7 and replace them with:

    -Storm manipulating large bodies of Water
    And the Second
    -Storm can sense you and attack you across the Planet.
    I like the last one as well that is a good feat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stormphoenix View Post
    Not Bad. Actually pretty Good.

    I would Drop Numbers: 6 and 7 and replace them with:

    -Storm manipulating large bodies of Water
    And the Second
    -Storm can sense you and attack you across the Planet.
    Doesn't # 6 speak to her ability to control large bodies of water?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devaishwarya View Post
    #7 is pure trash.
    1: It was explained in issue how forge was able to "unblock" Storm's powers, by using a reverse tech of the initial gun that took away her powers.
    2: Her lightning only provided the energy needed to power the pentagram portal Forge created to get back to Earth. It was Forge's magic that got them back not Storm's power.
    I agree it was the weakest on the list I wouldn't call it pure trash. I definitely would have swapped it out for another feat. I've also been partial to her hosting Eternity's consciousness. Think about that. It's incredible.

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    Yupp. Hosting Eternity's consciousness should have definitely been listed...among the top three.
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    It's hard to encapsulate her powers into just 10 specific feats, but overall, this is how I see it:

    10. Mutant metabolism.

    Ororo's x-gene expresses in her the inborn connection to the natural forces of the environment; presumably her mitochondria are exceptionally efficient at creating energy, so her thoughts/nervous system are connected to/act upon the physical elements of nature, such as air temperature, atmospheric electromagnetism, and the hydrosphere, for example. This ability is somewhat autonomic, but she can manipulate it at will and has developed an exceptional level of control, both on her own before joining the X-Men, and since engaging in their Danger Room trainings and super-heroics, allowing her to fly on wind, and use the weather both offensively and defensively. Ororo's mutation makes her virtually immune to temperature extremes, can process tremendous amounts of electromagnetic energy without lasting damage, and allows her breathe in rarefied environments(like the edge of space, or underwater).

    9. Sight beyond sight.

    When Ororo consciously uses her powers, her eyes glaze over in pure white. This may be due to a physical clouding of the anterior chamber within the eyes, between the cornea and iris, or it may be plasmatic/electrical in nature. In either case, when her eyes go white, she no longer sees the world in terms of visible light interacting with matter, but as a prismatic, mercurial, sea of energy cascades, presumably extending her perception into otherwise invisible EM frequencies. It is by influencing this energetic matrix underlying reality that Ororo is able to manipulate the elements. When experiencing the world this way, she can see into a person's body, into their very nervous system. She can track the movement of a target through the sky following it's trail. Presumably this extrasensory perception extends beyond her physical range of vision, as she is able to geolocate her own position based on the atmosphere( sky topography) or even accurately pinpoint a target from thousands of miles away(knocks the Blackbird out of the sky in America from Wakanda).

    8. Waterbender.

    While Ororo typically employs wind and lightning as her main weapons, she is also is mistress of the water. Using the same energy dynamics to control the air, Ororo can also sculpt water like a sculptress does clay. She can use underwater currents to propel herself or other vessels. She can make life-like bodies and faces from clouds or water. She can create and dispel massive waves. She can split water into hydrogen and oxygen with a thought, and of course change it from liquid to solid and back to gas or even plasma, as she so desires.

    7. Mistress of electromagnetism.

    Lightning is Ororo's favorite weapon. She can conjure bolts from within her own body, or draw them from the environment. She can melt through metal, vaporize enemies, or simply jolt or stun them, according to her will. She can also use subtle electromagnetic fields to interrupt or destroy electronics, either precisely(such as wiping a camera's memory card while not destroying its other functions) or in large EMP busts(to take out a swath of Sentinels, for example). And while Ororo usually rides the wind, she can also ride lightning, or perhaps even teleport through lightning, at extremely fast speeds.

    6. Brainstorm.

    So precise is Ororo's electromagnetic manipulation that she is able to sense the cascade of synapses in another person's nervous system, anticipating their physical movements. She can even manipulate their flow, causing either gentle, temporary dysfunction, or outright violent and fatal paralysis(vs. Mr. Sinister). The capacity for her own nervous system to interface with the electromagnetic forces of nature(and the commiserate willpower necessary to wield these forces) also seems to grant her a high level of resistance against telepaths.

    5. Planetary megastorms.

    Ororo's mutation allows for precise and widespread feats. She has on numerous occasions created city-sized, continental, hemispherical, and even complete planetary megastorms of unparalleled intensities. She has even shielded the entire planet from a lethal solar flare with one such storm(powered by a gamma ray device).

    4. Solar winds.

    Speaking of solar flares, Ororo's mutation does not stop at the edge of the earth's gaseous atmosphere. Her first time in space she was able to use the faint stream of charged particles from the sun(solar winds) to fly and destroy a Sentinel. She once manipulated the solar winds to interact with the upper atmosphere and create daylight-visible aurorae effects all over the planet(without destroying the electrical grid!) while mourning the passing of Logan. She can even select aspects of the solar radiation at will, and open the magnetosphere to let them in, which allowed her to vaporize a tidalwave at pointblank range. Other aspects this ability would allow for the direct manipulation of atomic structures, gamma waves, anti-matter, and other exotic upper atmospheric phenomena.

    3. Galactic core.

    When faced with the realization she had been implanted with a Brood egg and that it would take her life and have her powers, Ororo ran from her teammates and took a small spaceship into the deep cosmos, where they would not be hurt. As the Broodling began to take over her body, transforming her into a Brood, her ship passed through a dark nebular(space cloud), and the bright light of the nearby galactic core reversed the transformation. A galactic core is the center of a galaxy where the stars are much closer together, and so she had millions of stars and planets to draw power from. And draw power she did, when she harnessed the power of them all to burn the Broodling out of her system. For a brief moment, she was the brightest thing in the galaxy!

    2. Goddess.

    When Ororo's powers first manifested in her youth, many people thought of her as a goddess and worshipped her as such. In fact, her mother's family lineage is filled with powerful priestess-queens. Ororo herself called out to the Goddess and was met by Her. When Charles recruited Ororo, he told her she was not a goddess, but a mutant. And while Ororo indeed carries the mutant x-gene, she may be something more. When Doom turned her into chrome, she boiled over in rage, and when released was transcending her mortal form in elemental fury, but her friends helped her stay grounded. When she lost her powers, the Asgardian Loki tried to trick her into being his own thunder god, but she broke his spells. When Death came for her then husband T'Challa, she challenged Death on their own turf....and pushed them back! And when the Adversary tried to take over Wakanda, the worship of T'Challa and his people awakened in Ororo a dormant magic that was able to defeat the demon. Maybe Charles was wrong, and the tribesmen right, after all.

    1. Dimensional M-Brane

    The multiverse is populated with many deities from many pantheon, and many realms. When Cytorrak's avatar(the Juggernaut) proved to be so unstoppable that not even dimensional membranes could stop him, the X-Men ended up in a completely other dimension! All their powers were behaving strangely, but in Ororo's case it was more. So much so that the local gods, the totality of past, present, and future in this dimension, the Trion, tried to trap her in a mental illusion so she could not act. Once Ororo saw through the illusion and struck back, she found that she was able to usurp these gods, tank their best shots, and repair the entire DIMENSION that was unraveling due to Juggernaut's rupture. Mistress of the elements indeed!
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