Ororo Munroe: Storm Appreciation 2020

[chief12d]

Exactatiously.

I don't see them as out-right evil, just guided ad shaped by their circumstance and their world. Who knows....Genesis might be a better person, without the Annihilation Mask.

They're certainly acting the way you'd expect warriors who've been fighting for thousands of years to act. But genocide is genocide and I imagine Hickman will add context to their actions to give them some kind of humanity, or simply handwave their atrocities. Though I agree most of the Swordbearers likely aren't outright evil, just victims of rough lives who reproduce the violence that shaped them. Those are traits they can unlearn and if Marvel does plan on pushing a Storm-Death romance I think there's room for that to happen.

I agree, I don't think that Death is coming across as evil, probably the rest of Arrako aren't either. If they were, they would probably just attack instead of waiting for a tournament. We could have a situation where we see mutants from Krakoa trading places with some of the Arakko denizens.

I'm certain that some of them will end up living on Krakoa.

They certainly come across as brutal warriors, so their sense of morality is entirely different from a regular person's lol. The Arakkii are driven by the same core value of reunification that the Krakoans are so I think we'll see that while their methods are tough, at least some have the right intentions. Death could be one of those well-intentioned warriors who's not interested in the plunder and just wants to do right by mutantkind, his mother, and his own beliefs. I think you're right about trading places, maybe Death joins Storm on Krakoa or she joins him on Arrakko?

[Agent Z]

Storm #Cosplay by Jade Cargill

[jwatson]

Storm #Cosplay by Jade Cargill

Wow. The costume is a hot mess but that is like an off the pages comic superheroine stature. Amazing. Very feminine and still strong. She would make a perfect Nubia to Gal's Wonder Woman..

[OopsIdiditagain]

Serious question I'm a black american and I really don't get what this black love is suppose to be. I grew up with both my parents my mother is black and was born in anericanh father was from Jamaica they were married my whole life and have had ups and downs but always had each other back. My father would not have sat down if a man told him to if his wife was leaving upset. I never saw my father tell my mother to be less than. And if we spoke against him or her the other was ready to swoop in with righteous justice and there were 6 I'd us before he sent for his first three children from his relationship back home and brought them all here and bought a house for us to live in. Then when he got suck with diabetics and oarkiskn, I had an older dad she still stuck by him to me I saw love love never once did it cross my mind it was black love. I feel that's a desperate media invention by some black people to keep our women from exploring good men instead if just black men. Jmo though

lol

I think it's just the desire to have a non-struggle black love story since most Black romances in the media aren't healthy. It seems shallow but there's still a narrative that black people don't have stability in relationships in media sometimes(baby mamas, cheaters).

Honestly, media has no effect on Black women "exploring good men", it's just an American/cultural thing where interracial relationships are seen as a big deal. Places where it's not seen as a big deal, people aren't "kept away from exploring".

[OopsIdiditagain]

Storm may have been born in America but she's lived all of her formative years as an African.
T'Challa is an African King.

So...your definition Mekk80s...is it that their relationship has been co-opted to represent something that's not truly indicative of it?

Black American is not Black African.

Storm's dad is African American

[OopsIdiditagain]

Unlike a good deal of normal couples, huh?

Do most people break into their exes home to steal a family heirloom or tell their ex not to date someone, even though they're both single, because they don't like them?

[yogaflame]

Wow. The costume is a hot mess but that is like an off the pages comic superheroine stature. Amazing. Very feminine and still strong. She would make a perfect Nubia to Gal's Wonder Woman..

The details of the costume are unfortunately horrible, but the model is stunning.

#thunderthighs

[Thirteen]

On the "Black Love" for Ororo front, I've held Phil Jimenez as my hoped for writer for a Storm series in part so he could introduce a version of Trevor Barnes, his attempt at giving Wonder Woman a modern love interest that was still a "Trevor".
https://heckyeahstevetrevor.tumblr.c...supposed-to-be

[KLY360]

I haven't seen Storm that ripped unless she was depicted by Julie Bell or Boris Vallejo (who are bodybuilding enthusiasts so use that body type as a template for a heroic physique)

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Most definitely muscular

[skyvolt2000]

This concept of Black Love as explained by Chief is perfectly understandable. If we look to the idealised, romaticised, potential of that love as exemplified (and marketed) in this instance of two Black People of Royal lineage coming together. A lovely vision but, as is with LOVE in general, not perfect.

A pity, the writers tended focus on the not so perfect elements.

Well the issue is black misery tends to sell way too well and gets a seat at the main table. While other versions struggle to get noticed at times.

[chief12d]

Well the issue is black misery tends to sell way too well and gets a seat at the main table. While other versions struggle to get noticed at times.

Couldn't have been better said. And this isn't even just an issue for black characters, though it does seem to affect them worse because they tend to have less editorial protection than their white counterparts. Deconstructionist misery porn is one of many things that's caused the decline in quality for modern comics.

Highlighting dysfunction and constantly putting characters through **** under the guise of deepness has done more harm than good because many writers lack the skill to actually reconstruct the characters they're tearing down in the first place. It's why DOX has been so strongly received, because it allowed the X-Men to not constantly fail or fall victim to inter-mutant strife for the 50th time.

All the stories that could be told within a romance, whether we're talking BP-Storm or another couple, and for some reason writers default to love triangles, unending bickering, and projecting "realism" onto why they can't possibly work. Obviously, characters should be challenged, but all too often writers are more interested in messing with their heroes than validating their core beliefs and methods.

[Marvell2100]

Well the issue is black misery tends to sell way too well and gets a seat at the main table. While other versions struggle to get noticed at times.

Couldn't have been better said. And this isn't even just an issue for black characters, though it does seem to affect them worse because they tend to have less editorial protection than their white counterparts. Deconstructionist misery porn is one of many things that's caused the decline in quality for modern comics.

Highlighting dysfunction and constantly putting characters through **** under the guise of deepness has done more harm than good because many writers lack the skill to actually reconstruct the characters they're tearing down in the first place. It's why DOX has been so strongly received, because it allowed the X-Men to not constantly fail or fall victim to inter-mutant strife for the 50th time.

All the stories that could be told within a romance, whether we're talking BP-Storm or another couple, and for some reason writers default to love triangles, unending bickering, and projecting "realism" onto why they can't possibly work. Obviously, characters should be challenged, but all too often writers are more interested in messing with their heroes than validating their core beliefs and methods.

B.P.D.S. - Black People Dysfunction Syndrome.

[The92Ghost]

I see that a lot of people are using "black love" term without realizing what it really means. Black Love is an American term and it is something which you will not meet in most American couples, it is a type of love in which each party is more than ready to put their family, their children, their partner before everything else. The relationship is usually built on a lot of passion, chemistry and love.

As mentioned it is hard to explain but you can notice it if you watch movies about black people from American descent in American Movies. I just don't see that between Storm and Black Panther.

[metalclouds]

I see that a lot of people are using "black love" term without realizing what it really means. Black Love is something which you will not meet in most black American couples, and usually, it is a relationship that has established in a poor neighbourhood or was slowly built and established with time. Black Love is a type of love for which you are more than ready to die for. Let me put it this way. Black Love is built on solid love between two unique people who rely mostly on passion and family bonds of black ascend, negers. You don't see that, often, between two white Americans, for example, but when it comes to Black American people, it is entirely different. Black Love is not something that you meet that often in Africa, and it is scarce to happen in Africa and even so it won't be like it would be in the USA, for example.

I recommend people watching more movies with negers and black people to understand what Black Love really means this doesn't apply for Storm and Black Panther since they are both from African heritage and their "Black Love" even if you can call it like that, is far from what the real Black Love is. Black Love is American Term, just to put that here. I hope you understand it because you can't simply explain it via words, it is something that you must witness with your own eyes and sense with your own emotions. Just watch some really well made, a good movie about negers, that touch on their ghetto so to speak and you will see what Black Love really means.

sorry but wth are you talking about "You won't find most American Black couples" and wth is a "neger".

[The92Ghost]

sorry but wth are you talking about "You won't find most American Black couples" and wth is a "neger".

Yeah, I wrote it really late and I've made stupid mistakes I will fix it later