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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    Similar powersets? All Cable has is his TP and TK whereas M has a host of other mutant abilities. Cable rarely uses his TP and TK bc of his TO virus and when he does its very low level. His main form of combat are his guns and people dont say he's OP bc he simply isnt
    Cable was literally born with tk and tp like his mother. Cable definitely uses his tk and tp especially kid cable with his last usage in xos creation and cable #4. In uncanny avengers red skull with Xavier's stolen brain said he was an omega level mutant. His cybernetics enhancement give him super strength, durability, enhanced vision multi-spectrum vision, teleportation and the ability to tinker around with technology. The full strenght of his tp and tk varies from title to title but the point remains he still has those powers along with a host of other ones and no one complains about Cable being too overpowered. While with Monet her tp and tk also varied from book to book (but since x-men vol. its been established that she's a strong user) but people constantly complain that she's too overpowered.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Thor is not a telepath, Quire is very powerful but not bullet-proof as we have so acutely seen of late, Cuckoos are not telekinetic and Hellion is not a telepath. Hope doesn't have powers if she doesn't have other mutants nearby.
    I'm not sure I get your 'white vs non-white' argument. Where Storm and Karma fit within that thinking?
    I'm going to assume in good faith that you're not purposefully missing the point.

    What does it matter that Thor isn't a telepath and why are you now bringing it up? The point about Monet's power were never about her possessing telepathy and telekinesis, it's about the amount of different powers she has. It she had some sort of energy manipulation power along with teleportation people would still say she's overpowered. And anyways you're the one who brought up Thor.

    All the other characters limitation you mentioned are semantics along with wether they have tk or tp. I never said everyone of those characters possess both tk and tp, simply that tk and tp are powers that all these characters have.

    You're confusing Hope with Rogue, Hope doesn't need to be near a mutant to access their powers, she has access to all mutant powers. Plus she was a phoenix host, and demonstrated several times tk and tp abilities on her own.

    Storm was the first female character of colour to have multiple powers that aren't physical or animal based and at time it feels like she's the only one allowed to be that powerful when there's a host of powerful white characters running around with multiple powers. Karma is just a telepath and empath and again, she's rarely been used for years with her last concrete appearance in Liu's amazing x-men run.
    Last edited by frostedemma; 09-28-2020 at 04:36 PM.

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