Scott Summers: Cyclops Appreciation 2020

[Ruby Summers]

lol Wait Kurt going to marry Logan or Rachel?

This is Krakoa, bub. The age of either/or is over, embrace yes/and thinking!

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both got it lol hahahh Alabama got nothing on Krakoa.

[Havok83]

Actually Maddie is Scott 1st wife, if jean coming back alive means scott and jean are marry again it also should mean Scott and Maddie are marry too. ohhh The Summer house is hers xD

Maddie's not even a real person. Her marriage wasnt even legal

[Gray Lensman]

Maddie's not even a real person. Her marriage wasnt even legal

I'm not going to say that she wasn't a real person, but since pretty much everything about her background and who she was happened to be a lie, that is grounds for divorce at the very least, and probably is enough to consider the marriage void. Although I think Scott still refers to Maddie as a wife, so there is that.

[Havok83]

I'm not going to say that she wasn't a real person, but since pretty much everything about her background and who she was happened to be a lie, that is grounds for divorce at the very least, and probably is enough to consider the marriage void. Although I think Scott still refers to Maddie as a wife, so there is that.

I meant not real in that all her documents an identity were fabricated and Scott married her under false pretenses. Thats actually grounds for an annulment which is more severe than divorce as it means the marriage never existed. She died before any of that could even be settled so its moot.

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Is a big can of wtf, in one hand she belied to be Maddie her pass was fake but she build a life with Scott, The second they got together and then married all this time she though she was real not a clone. If clones are not real then x 23 is fake. About the marriage Maddie can fight back saying she had no idea this identity was fake.

[Havok83]

Is a big can of wtf, in one hand she belied to be Maddie her pass was fake but she build a life with Scott, The second they got together and then married all this time she though she was real not a clone. If clones are not real then x 23 is fake. About the marriage Maddie can fight back saying she had no idea this identity was fake.

It doesnt matter for a variety of reasons:
A) Maddie died. Her marriage legally ended with that
B) Scott would need to agree to it, which he isnt likely to because
C) Because it would mean invalidating his marriage to Jean and there's no way in hell he would do that

[Ruby Summers]

both got it lol hahahh Alabama got nothing on Krakoa.

Alabama would hate what's happening on Krakoa. Heterosexual pedophilia? Alabama's down. Heterosexual incest? Alabama says "Right on!" Consensual polyamory among multiple unrelated adults of varying genders? No way.

It doesnt matter for a variety of reasons:
A) Maddie died. Her marriage legally ended with that
B) Scott would need to agree to it, which he isnt likely to because
C) Because it would mean invalidating his marriage to Jean and there's no way in hell he would do that

If Scott's marriage to Maddie was over upon her death, isn't the same true of his marriage to Jean? It's kind of disingenuous to use that arguement for one and not the other. Have Jean and Scott reaffirmed their marriage since each of their deaths and resurrections? If not, and death is the metric for ending a marriage, none of them are married to anyone at this point.

[DianaWw]

To say one count and the other doesn't base on one being a clone is not okay or because death.

[PrezValentine]

The marriage with Madelyne is bad because she's a Jean Grey bodypillow cursed with life, but from a legal standpoint, I think the whole issue is because of fake identity and the fact that she didn't grow anywhere and was "born" not that long before she met Scott. You throw all that in front of a judge and they'll probably be in favor of making the whole deal null and void. This clone thing is really a slippery slope. She's different from Laura, who at least had the whole process of growing up and can be seen as a legal adult who's capable of consenting to stuff.

[Glio]

Laura with the last retcon is not even a clone, she is simply Logan's daughter.

[Gray Lensman]

The marriage with Madelyne is bad because she's a Jean Grey bodypillow cursed with life, but from a legal standpoint, I think the whole issue is because of fake identity and the fact that she didn't grow anywhere and was "born" not that long before she met Scott. You throw all that in front of a judge and they'll probably be in favor of making the whole deal null and void. This clone thing is really a slippery slope. She's different from Laura, who at least had the whole process of growing up and can be seen as a legal adult who's capable of consenting to stuff.

Pretty much this. Maddie's biggest issue isn't having died, nor being a clone, but the fact that pretty much everything about her was bogus. That she thought it was real herself for a while might be a mitigating factor (from a legal standpoint), it might not be an excusing one.

Headcanon territory here - but the personality shift she showed in X-Factor may very well have been part of her mental programming. Sinister wanted the kid, not the superhero father, and certainly not tied to a superhero team on top of it. The fact that Madelyn was a victim herself at that stage of the story still wouldn't prevent the marriage from being annulled.

As to whether or not Scott and Jean are married again - if they are referring to themselves as husband and wife on panel then we can presume they have renewed their vows, or at least legal authorities on Krakoa don't consider death to be the end of the contract (and in a society where resurrection is a thing that is very possible). Just because there hasn't been panels with a tux and a white dress doesn't mean a small wedding hasn't happened, especially if the two are acting as if it has.

[TheDeadSpace]

The marriage with Madelyne is bad because she's a Jean Grey bodypillow cursed with life, but from a legal standpoint, I think the whole issue is because of fake identity and the fact that she didn't grow anywhere and was "born" not that long before she met Scott. You throw all that in front of a judge and they'll probably be in favor of making the whole deal null and void. This clone thing is really a slippery slope. She's different from Laura, who at least had the whole process of growing up and can be seen as a legal adult who's capable of consenting to stuff.

Honestly the more I think about it, the more I realize just how big a mess the whole thing was/is. In a way, it's the "gift" that keeps on giving. Especially when you consider what she did later...

[Havok83]

Alabama would hate what's happening on Krakoa. Heterosexual pedophilia? Alabama's down. Heterosexual incest? Alabama says "Right on!" Consensual polyamory among multiple unrelated adults of varying genders? No way.


If Scott's marriage to Maddie was over upon her death, isn't the same true of his marriage to Jean? It's kind of disingenuous to use that arguement for one and not the other. Have Jean and Scott reaffirmed their marriage since each of their deaths and resurrections? If not, and death is the metric for ending a marriage, none of them are married to anyone at this point.

Yes from a legal standpoint it should be BUT there was a 6 month gap between their reunion in Dawn of X. We dont know if they made any legal chances to reinstate their marriage. Maybe they didnt bc they are now Krakoan citizens and we dont know how marriage is legally recognized here. They are living as husband and wife and are not subject to the formalities and legailities that they had when they married under US law

To say one count and the other doesn't base on one being a clone is not okay or because death.

Its not bc she was a clone, but bc her entire identity was fabricated. Scott married Maddie under false pretenses which he did not when he married Jean

The marriage with Madelyne is bad because she's a Jean Grey bodypillow cursed with life, but from a legal standpoint, I think the whole issue is because of fake identity and the fact that she didn't grow anywhere and was "born" not that long before she met Scott. You throw all that in front of a judge and they'll probably be in favor of making the whole deal null and void. This clone thing is really a slippery slope. She's different from Laura, who at least had the whole process of growing up and can be seen as a legal adult who's capable of consenting to stuff.

Laura also has a real identity. There isnt much difference between her and how a test tube baby is brought into this world

[Glio]

https://twitter.com/gameralphabeta/s...569228801?s=20

This is like Cyclops Simulator.