His first one, #19, did, at least. Must've been released after #21 because the cover would otherwise be a spoiler for that issue. #19 was Amka's debut issue, she became Snowguard and joined the team in #21.
His first one, #19, did, at least. Must've been released after #21 because the cover would otherwise be a spoiler for that issue. #19 was Amka's debut issue, she became Snowguard and joined the team in #21.
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Yeah, the current status of the Champions are that Falcon registered with the older Falcon as his mentor and has left the team, Locust and Snowguard were captured in Outlawed #1, Bombshell and Wasp were captured in Champions #1, Starling got captured after #1 but before #2 (as I said, probably in an unreleased issue of Miles Morales), Viv is on the run faking the dead, and most of the others have dispersed, with Kamala, Miles, Sam and now Riri travelling as a group. We know their next move will be to seek out Cyclops. Amadeus has more than likely gone to Pan to be with the Agents of Atlas - it appears that Atlantis Attacks takes place after Outlawed, considering it leads directly into King in Black. That's kind of a sanctuary for Ammy, as Kamala's Law isn't enforceable outside the US (which makes you wonder why Amka, a Canadian, wasn't just deported).
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I can see why Champions is a very current issue to the school children observing and internalising their predicament into the future. The tension between the teens in CWII and the adult superheroes rings true as a realisation what adults cause in future generations. Of course adults are foisted with the responsibility of structuring a plan for teens, but there comes a time adults have to be held accountable. There used to a program back in the 1960’s and 70’s of students being invited into council meetings for their input, and it was abandoned. I have a feeling teens nowadays wouldn’t abandon that kind of forum that quickly anymore, considering that teen from Scandinavia and climate change.
Your example of student loans having a detrimental effect on their future rings true in my country as well. That debt hangs around their neck for decades before they come out from under it.
There is the consequences argument to, “How would you it, if not what the adults do”? It’s what I have been looking at with Kamala Khan in Ms Marvel, because she has now been confronted with a collateral damage issue from her standpoint and I wonder how Kamala is going to view adult superheroes now? Does she maintain her superiority of morals, or does Kamala understand that intervention does hold some negative consequences? This is the argument I am interested in when a young adult grows into an adult. Yes, it’s nice to hold idealistic views, but it takes a while to get to where Captain America is. Where do you draw the line between overwhelming threat, and intervention with consequences? “Incursions” was one of those absurd examples of this question.
I never looked at both CW’s as Pyrrhic victories in that sense before, but I’ll give you another example which may be a bit confronting in today’s battle in COVID-19.
We in Victoria, Australia, were so fearful of Lockdown in our Second Wave that we thought our society would collapse. Lose our jobs, companies default, economy go into meltdown. But it didn’t. And you know what we learnt from all that experience of holding our nerve till we got C-19 under control? None of what we feared happened. We were all fine (except for a few emotional scares). But what we learnt was, we can have a Lockdown now, and not fear the worst will happen. It won’t. We couldn’t adhere to the Pandemic Plan we had in our state, but had to apply extreme restrictions, but it worked. This was an example of an adult response we didn’t like and hated, but it’s effect was what was important. No new cases in 15 days.
I may have described my COVID-19 example too simplistically, because the consequences of the Lockdown was also 800 dead from a failed hotel security system. Be that as it may, under that sobering reality, the final result still holds.
If this is an argument of adults vs teens the people assigned to direct a response to an incident still falls to adults, not children. I don’t know how we can dilute that reality.
Was Snow guard in today’s Marvel Voices issue?
Damn it. There appears to be a mistake in the February solicitations, issue 4 is there again, instead of issue 5. Issue 4 was solicited for January.
Also, no Power Pack. Looks like Outlawed has been suspended for some reason. And Miles is facing a brown fist with a gold wristband in his King in Black tie-in - it seems that Knull brainwashed Kamala.
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I guess there trying to get the Knull Event out. And put Outlawed on hold.
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