Well said, the plot is more nefarious than Wave knows about and trusting the Sirenas is a mistake imo.
Also a fan posted this Namor Art Commission by Adam Gorham, artist of New Mutants.
Well said, the plot is more nefarious than Wave knows about and trusting the Sirenas is a mistake imo.
Also a fan posted this Namor Art Commission by Adam Gorham, artist of New Mutants.
"No one should ever question where my allegiance lies." - Namor of Atlantis
I do want to mention that this is how it appears on initial reading, however, I recently reread those issues over again, and the 'splinter group' and the Queen, who didn't die, say and react to multiple things that suggest this was all a ruse to get Wave on their side. Specifically all their weaponry and experiments are very clearly aimed at overthrowing Atlantis.
Also despite their few mentions of how Atlantis slighted them, they repeatedly seem far more focused on taking over all of the oceans.
Oh you remember me! Thank you.. it's nice to see that you guys are enjoying the book. And yes, I think my previous attempt at drawing Namor was far from good, so now I tried my best to do him justice. My current Namor is very different with the one I did years ago, and part of it is because now I read this thread, I learn how I supposed to potray and draw him. You guys are his loyal fans and passionately talking and discussing about Namor, and so I get more knowledge about the sea prince and I try my best to respect that. I may have no control on the story, but I can at least try my best to draw Namor correctly.
Now back to the drawing board.. drawing the sea prince again!
Thanks for visiting this thread. I also echo Reviresco's yearning for Namor's classic look. Its rare when a comic book professional comes and expresses interest in listening at a character's fandom. I was already impressed with your artwork but this has cemented my admiration making me 100% a fan. Your Namor is one of the best I have seen in awhile and the book is beautifully drawn.
How was Namor and Atlantis’ showing in this mini? Should I pick it up?
I’m slowly getting caught up, and I’m almost to War of the Realms, but hopefully I’ll be up to this mini in a couple weeks.
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Namor the Sub-Mariner, Marvel's oldest character, will have been published for 85 years in 2024. So where's my GOOD Namor anniversary ongoing, Marvel?
Well.... the usual happens with Atantis.
It's Pak writing Namor, so it's a more sympathetic and nuanced Namor. I find it a little confusing, not having read the build up in previous mini-series, but only for the motivation of some of the characters.
If you are interested in Namor or the Agents of Atlas (both new and old) then you should definitely pick it up.
Namor the Sub-Mariner, Marvel's oldest character, will have been published for 85 years in 2024. So where's my GOOD Namor anniversary ongoing, Marvel?
Of course! Secret Wars House of M caused some conversation here, and there are still fans of that particular Alternate Universe. Don't be so hard on your past work. I know I, and others, enjoyed that Namor. Of course, it's good to grow your skills over the years, as you obviously have. Thrilled if our posts helped with your new portrayal of Namor.
Looking forward to next issue!
Namor the Sub-Mariner, Marvel's oldest character, will have been published for 85 years in 2024. So where's my GOOD Namor anniversary ongoing, Marvel?
Was it deleted? I did see the Cronin one go up and thought it was unusual. Like you said, we used to have news articles prompt forum threads all the time and that was cool and I miss it. Had some interesting conversations.
Well, think about it. Would you really want to have a ruling monarch who wasn't confident in their abilities? ;p
Namor the Sub-Mariner, Marvel's oldest character, will have been published for 85 years in 2024. So where's my GOOD Namor anniversary ongoing, Marvel?
I was a little annoyed at that, but at least there was some explanation spoilers:end of spoilers, but if they have those and they are that effective, then they should have no problem fighting anyone, including Atlanteans.
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I'm guessing that the hydrokinesis has something to do with that last page. Hard to keep someone spoilers:end of spoilers if they are using that, eh?
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Also of note, we don't see Namor with black eyes in this when he's using hydrokinesis, do we?
Exactly. And I know it doesn't count, but remember, in the Golden Age, Namor was something of a Tony Stark inventor. He invented the flying Blitz Buggy with basically nothing. He was always inventing new Atlantean ships and stuff for them. But we had a little of that in the Silver Age. I remember Magneto wandering into Namor's lab in an FF issue.
Apparently, both groups hate Atlantis.
Did Wave SEE Atlanteans killing the Sirenas? She SAW the Sirenas doing bad things. She SAW the Sirenas booby trap the dragon, kill Atlanteans, and blow up the peace talks. She HEARD how differently the Atlanteans and the Sirenas see their conflict. I don't think inexperience explains why she's siding with the attacking Sirenas.
Aaaaah! Something else I have to hunt down, then. But we didn't actually SEE the dragon attacking people?
I agree, of course. There's a literal world of potential that Marvel is ignoring by not exploring with Namor. Instead we get Weirdworld or endless future Old Man Loganverse or The End stories -- none of which have the durability, or epicness, of a 3000 - 5000 year old flood story. And don't get me started on the great unknown of the oceans or the environmental angle. I just don't understand Marvel editorial.
Okay, but the Sirenas don't appear to be using the portals. They are going back into the water. Plus, this is new tech, right? So it doesn't explain why the Sirenas, who live in the Pacific, have a historic and ongoing conflict with the Atlanteans who live in the Atlantic.
Ah, okay. That's what I was wondering. Ikeda's claim was news to me.
And Pan isn't looking so good either on that list.
Except, Wave has no direct experience of this "ruthless tyrant," and the "peaceful" side of the Sirenas have done nothing but fight and destroy Cho's attempt at peace, so I'm not sure how she can view them as peaceful.
Well, I didn't pick up on that, but I've been meaning to re-read those back ups. I'm with Aero on this one. Things with the Sirenas feel shady.
Namor the Sub-Mariner, Marvel's oldest character, will have been published for 85 years in 2024. So where's my GOOD Namor anniversary ongoing, Marvel?
Thank you so much, Reviresco.
Well, I do appreciate and always be grateful for the editors to trust me with such title, and at that time, I did all my best. But as you said, as time goes by, I try to improve not only in drawing but also in spending more time to find out about the characters more. Not just the surface, but what's beneath the skin. And I can learn so much about Namor from here. Also Greg wrote fantastic stories and from his script I get Namor's character. He's a very good writer that we can understand the characters just by reading the script. But yeah, I need to learn more and I want to potray Namor justice, so this thread has helped me to know him better.
OMG! Does this mean every story under the Marvel Knights imprint takes place in AU? Or is FF1234 an exception?
IIRC, the implication was that Namor was able to short-circuit Sue's force fields using his bio-electric aura.
I also liked that Namor wasn't above using a bit of psychological warfare, as well.
I also remember this. Great quote, Reviresco.
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I wouldn't say all of Marvel Knights was AU. But there are definitely conflicts with continuity. The MK FF books, for example, were running concurrently with the regular FF series and they didn't match up. I already pointed out the Triton change in the Inhumans series.
Of course, there are other MK titles that were pretty much adopted into continuity wholesale.
That was it! I thought that was an interesting take on Namor's often ignored bio-electric abilities.
I actually enjoyed Namor alot in FF1234. I thought Morrison wrote his dialog almost poetic... and sensual.
Namor the Sub-Mariner, Marvel's oldest character, will have been published for 85 years in 2024. So where's my GOOD Namor anniversary ongoing, Marvel?