Tim Drake: Robin, Red Robin, Drake Appreciation 2020

[CPSparkles]

In fact, Tim is still a teen in Rebirth even if he's starting college, here he's a super genius who skipped grades.

Future state is set 10 -15 years in the future so no Tim isn't a teen.

[Morgoth]

It seems that in the Robin King tie-in he was called the Red Robin again.

[Shamrock Holmes]

Future state is set 10 -15 years in the future so no Tim isn't a teen.

You'd think so -- but considering that even in Pre-Flashpoint continuity he was occasionally stated as younger than the timeline suggests (for instance in Robin #116 he described as 16, whereas a reasonable reading of the timeline suggests that five years have passed since his debut as a 13-year old so he should be 18.) and it's only got worse since -- so I wouldn't count on it.

[Restingvoice]

You'd think so -- but considering that even in Pre-Flashpoint continuity he was occasionally stated as younger than the timeline suggests (for instance in Robin #116 he described as 16, whereas a reasonable reading of the timeline suggests that five years have passed since his debut as a 13-year old so he should be 18.) and it's only got worse since -- so I wouldn't count on it.

yes but this time they time skip and the story relies on time being skipped with all the heroes that's grown up like Aquababy

[Light of Justice]

It seems that in the Robin King tie-in he was called the Red Robin again.

with Robin costume again. Huft. And Duke narration said about Robin, former Robin, and almost Robin. If former Robin is Steph and almost Robin is Duke, with Damian nowhere on sight, the Tim can be classified as Robin.
At this point I had to accept that Tim is maybe indeed Robin Eternal.

[Aahz]

You'd think so -- but considering that even in Pre-Flashpoint continuity he was occasionally stated as younger than the timeline suggests (for instance in Robin #116 he described as 16, whereas a reasonable reading of the timeline suggests that five years have passed since his debut as a 13-year old so he should be 18.) and it's only got worse since -- so I wouldn't count on it.

There is kind of a difference between ignoring the time passing in actual stories, something they were actually doing with all characters (Bruce parents for example died "25 years ago" beginning from the early 80s to pretty close before flashpoint), and doing that when you are writing a story set in an alternative future.

[Konja7]

with Robin costume again. Huft. And Duke narration said about Robin, former Robin, and almost Robin. If former Robin is Steph and almost Robin is Duke, with Damian nowhere on sight, the Tim can be classified as Robin.
At this point I had to accept that Tim is maybe indeed Robin Eternal.

The thing is Tim is called Red in Robin King tie-in by Stephanie.

To be fair, the suits are pretty confusing because Cassandra uses her previous Orphan suit, Stephanie uses her Spoiler suit with ninja mask (but not Batsymbol) and Tim uses his Robin suit (although he has been called Red Robin in that suit).

[CPSparkles]

The thing is Tim is called Red in Robin King tie-in by Stephanie.

To be fair, the suits are pretty confusing because Cassandra uses her previous Orphan suit, Stephanie uses her Spoiler suit with ninja mask (but not Batsymbol) and Tim uses his Robin suit (although he has been called Red Robin in that suit).

At this point this isn't a mistake. Tim is Red Robin making him Robin Eternal.

Dc are trying to have their cake and eat it at the same time.

Cass and Steph have Bat symbols but are not Bat girls
Tim is dressed as Robin but is still called Red Robin.
And it worked since it got all the 90's fans frotting with excitement but it's just a con.

DC seems bent on confusing fans

[Digifiend]

Uh, I think you'll find that Cass and Steph are collectively known as Batgirls, at least in Future State. They did keep the individual Orphan and Spoiler codenames though.

[KrustyKid]

At this point this isn't a mistake. Tim is Red Robin making him Robin Eternal.

Dc are trying to have their cake and eat it at the same time.

Cass and Steph have Bat symbols but are not Bat girls
Tim is dressed as Robin but is still called Red Robin.
And it worked since it got all the 90's fans frotting with excitement but it's just a con.

DC seems bent on confusing fans

Pretty much this. If they want to keep Tim with that codename he should have a design that looks like.. well, 'Red' Robin

[Fergus]

Uh, I think you'll find that Cass and Steph are collectively known as Batgirls, at least in Future State. They did keep the individual Orphan and Spoiler codenames though.

So Cass is still Orphan and Steph is still Spoiler right?

[Fergus]

Pretty much this. If they want to keep Tim with that codename he should have a design that looks like.. well, 'Red' Robin

Because they're still hoping to cash in on the nostalgia

[KrustyKid]

Because they're still hoping to cash in on the nostalgia

Ya, which is kind of silly to me

[Fergus]

Ya, which is kind of silly to me

It works so they keep doing it

[KrustyKid]

It works so they keep doing it

Which is unfortunate. I'd have loved to see what Tim could have done as 'Drake' at least for a couple of years before canning the whole thing. Loved the suit, color scheme.. it was different enough from everyone else. At least he wouldn't just be another 'Robin'. Don't hate the Red Robin name per say, but they at least need to give him a look closer to the pre-52 one, and a mission more in line with what he had as well. With the 'Robin' identity still open I'm sure Damian will be back soon, so the sooner those changes come the better.. at least that would be my hope.