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    Default If Cap were pushed as much as Bats

    A friend of mine borrowed/read/enjoyed my Avengers/JLA books, and was asking some standard not-really-into-comics-mostly knows characters from the movies questions.
    One thing he wondered was if Cap and Bats were the most popular street levelers (my term not his) at Marvel/DC.
    I was like nooooo, not really. Cap has one book and is on the Avengers. Bats...is a huuuge chunk of DC’s books.

    So, w. tongue in cheek, i wondered, if Marvel -did- push Cap at a Bats level, what might that look like.. ?

    CAPTAIN AMERICA
    (The ongoing Batman monthly obviously.)

    USA COMICS
    (Published in the 30s and 40s by Timely, mostly starring Cap. Detective Comics.)

    WINTER SOLDIER
    (For a Nightwing book.)

    CAPTAIN AMERICA AND THE PATRIOTS
    (For Batman and The Outsiders, w. Falcon as actual leader same as Black Lightning in the current book.)

    US AGENT, REAL AMERICAN
    US AGENT AND THE REAL AMERICANS
    (For Red Hood, Outlaw/Red Hood and The Outlaws.)

    AMERICAN DREAM
    (An MC2 ongoing for a Batwoman ongoing.)

    BUCKY
    (A Rikki Barnes ongoing for a Batgirl ongoing.)

    PATRIOT
    (An Elijah Bradley ongoing for a Tim Drake ongoing)

    DAUGHTERS OF LIBERTY
    (For Birds of Prey. Thanks the illustrious mr. kenway!)

    SIN
    (For Harley Quinn. Thanks the illustrious mr. kenway!)

    DIAMONDBACK
    (For Catwoman. Thanks the illustrious mr. kenway!)

    THE CAPTAIN AMERICA CORPS
    (For Batman Inc. Thanks LifeIsILL!)

    JOSIAH X
    (For Batwing. Thanks dkrook!)

    CAPTAIN AMERICA BEYOND
    (For Batman Beyond. James Rogers from The Next Avengers cartoon movie as the new Captain America, w. Old Man Tony Stark as his mentor.)

    NOMAD
    (For Azrael. Thanks Alan2099!)

    THE CAPTAIN AMERICA ADVENTURES
    (For The Batman Adventures.)

    ...any other possible books out there?
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    The Birds of Prey equivalent would be the Daughters of Liberty group from Coates's run.

    a Harley Quinn book could be a Diamondback or Sin book.

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    I have been thinking of a Cap adjacent title...you take some old characters like Ram Ridley, Fabian Stankowicz and Drake Harrison (Jack Flag's brother) as an operations center/support group in a bunker who use the old hotline Steve set up, the social media network Sam set up and software to search news and taps into national law enforcement networks to look for issues and then send in operatives who are associated with Cap. Diamondback, Free Spirit, D-Man, maybe bring back and update Vagabond from Steve's days as The Captain...and some characters who have not been associated with him before like Barney Barton (Clint's brother) and others to deal with the issues that they come across. Steve shows up occasionally to keep tabs on things...or in the case of Vagabond he actually goes out and auditions her by giving her a job and tagging along and then offering her a place in the network.

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    There was Captain America Corps, which came out before Batman Inc.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LifeIsILL View Post
    There was Captain America Corps, which came out before Batman Inc.

    That was time travel as opposed to Batman franchises.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris0013 View Post
    That was time travel as opposed to Batman franchises.
    You're right. That was practically a Spider-Verse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the illustrious mr. kenway View Post
    The Birds of Prey equivalent would be the Daughters of Liberty group from Coates's run.
    ^^^Oh that is GOLD!

    Quote Originally Posted by the illustrious mr. kenway View Post
    a Harley Quinn book could be a Diamondback or Sin book.
    ^^^Oh SNAP!
    Diamondback as a Catwoman book, Sin as a Harley book! DOUBLE gold!

    Quote Originally Posted by LifeIsILL View Post
    There was Captain America Corps, which came out before Batman Inc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris0013 View Post
    That was time travel as opposed to Batman franchises.
    ^^^that fits the theme I’m going for, though (which is flooding the market w. Cap related books ala DC/Bats). I like it!
    I’m adding all these to the fictional line up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris0013 View Post
    I have been thinking of a Cap adjacent title...you take some old characters like Ram Ridley, Fabian Stankowicz and Drake Harrison (Jack Flag's brother) as an operations center/support group in a bunker who use the old hotline Steve set up, the social media network Sam set up and software to search news and taps into national law enforcement networks to look for issues and then send in operatives who are associated with Cap. Diamondback, Free Spirit, D-Man, maybe bring back and update Vagabond from Steve's days as The Captain...and some characters who have not been associated with him before like Barney Barton (Clint's brother) and others to deal with the issues that they come across. Steve shows up occasionally to keep tabs on things...or in the case of Vagabond he actually goes out and auditions her by giving her a job and tagging along and then offering her a place in the network.
    You know, a lot of this could be spread across the various books, as a way of Tying them together.

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    U.S. Agent would have his own book, maybe even Nomad.

    There would probably be another Bucky too.

    We'd also get comics where Captain America is able to take down the classic line up of the Defenders on his own. Power Cosmic? Sorcerer Supreme? That's nothing against some good old fashion American Can-do attitude!

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    If Josiah X is given a book, then I'm IN ! To keep with the OP's theme it would parallel Batwing book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkrook View Post
    If Josiah X is given a book, then I'm IN ! To keep with the OP's theme it would parallel Batwing book.
    Oh that’s frikkin’ brilliant! It’s going on the list!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan2099 View Post
    U.S. Agent would have his own book, maybe even Nomad.

    There would probably be another Bucky too.
    US Agent was already in the OP.

    I did just add a Bucky ongoing though.
    I had American Dream as a Batgirl book but switched her to sub for Batwoman.
    I had Rikki Barnes take over the Batgirl position on the list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan2099 View Post
    maybe even Nomad.
    I wanted to revisit this one, so thought on it and finally settled on Azrael.
    Both have checkered violent histories, and they’ve both had their brains washed a few times and been controlled by unscrupulous ppl. Nomad’s also spent a little time in an armored suit

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    Technically Patriot would be better suited for Batwing, especially the second Batwing as Eli was related to a former Captain America and Luke is Lucious Fox's son.

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    I know we had American Dream for Batwoman, but a book led by Sharon Carter doing some cool spy stuff on the side could all be an option.

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