Dick Grayson: Robin / Nightwing Appreciation 2020

[Ascended]

If this costume was blue, it would be my favorite ever. He has the gauntlet that serves as a utility belt, has that spikes in his arms, reminiscing of his time as Batman, the stripes, a lot a cool details. I really like this suit.

The only bad part is the red.

By and large I agree; Booth did a good job giving the suit some weight and making it look like more than just spandex without losing the sleek design sensibility (for the most part). The red was problematic, and I think he was a little *too* detailed, but generally I thought it was a damn viable design, outside of the color.

I've had the same thought that the blue and yellow look would probably be a better representation of the character. But... I like the black and light blue look too much to give it up.

Yeah, I'm not willing to give it up either, it's as close as we've got to a iconic design for Dick and I'm loathe to give that up. But if a bit of yellow could be worked in here or there without losing the suit's recognition factor I wouldn't complain.

[AmiMizuno]

Does anyone else what the gliders he had back? I'm curious. The more I think about it Dick does have other talents that haven't been explored. He did in some comics play the guitar. Why not have him be a guitar tutor? Or some type of music tutor

[Restingvoice]

Someone has to draw it first since I've never seen a yellow that works for me. I don't even like light blue. I only like the dark blue or red. More dark blue than red.

I like the glider. It's functional.

[K7P5V]

Agree about the glider. If only there were some way to combine the DCAU version with the George Perez version:

[Pohzee]

I'm conflicted about the glider. It 100% come down to execution. If it was used right it would be cool to see Dick flying through the air with "the greatest of ease," sailing and looping acrobatically, but it could also be used as a shortcut for lazy visual storytelling where he just glides everywhere and could come off as way less dynamic that his typical Spider-slinging way of getting around.

It's not exactly the same thing, but what I'm thinking of here is the glider from Tomasi's run, where he just flew everywhere on his glider and it wasn't very interesting. It made the story feel like he was quick traveling through a video game or something.

[Ascended]

I totally support the glider. But it has to be Dick's secondary form of transportation, used only in particular circumstances like 1. there isn't enough around for him to parkour (think Spider-Man when he's in the suburbs and can't swing) 2. long distance travel (think Infinite Crisis) or 3. if he's fighting someone who can fly and they're above building level.

[Pohzee]

Agree about the glider. If only there were some way to combine the DCAU version with the George Perez version:

Here were some mockups I made trying to combine the two.

[Godlike13]

Im digging the bottom right.

[Ascended]

Im digging the bottom right.

Same. I think if you want to get back to that early 90's vibe you need the belt and boots and gloves, which the black-blue generally does away with (outside of arm and finger stripes).

I'm still satisfied with the black-blue, but if DC were to put some yellow back in, that's how I'd like to see it done. Good job Pohzee!

[Pohzee]

Thanks! 10char

[K7P5V]

Here were some mockups I made trying to combine the two.

Im digging the bottom right.

Same. I think if you want to get back to that early 90's vibe you need the belt and boots and gloves, which the black-blue generally does away with (outside of arm and finger stripes).

I'm still satisfied with the black-blue, but if DC were to put some yellow back in, that's how I'd like to see it done. Good job Pohzee!

^^^In total agreement. They're all very well done.

[Restingvoice]

Here were some mockups I made trying to combine the two.

If we have to go this color I honestly prefer the ones with no black
No idea why I just don't think the light blue plus yellow with the black is a good combo but it looks better with the dark blue
Hmm... maybe because of the familiarity with Perez costume
The Stelfreeze black mixed with elements of Perez feels like two different eras mixed together and my mind can't reconcile it.
The first one I think it's best because it has the simplest shape. The bird logo isn't divided into two colors

[Pohzee]

If we have to go this color I honestly prefer the ones with no black
No idea why I just don't think the light blue plus yellow with the black is a good combo but it looks better with the dark blue
Hmm... maybe because of the familiarity with Perez costume
The Stelfreeze black mixed with elements of Perez feels like two different eras mixed together and my mind can't reconcile it.
The first one I think it's best because it has the simplest shape. The bird logo isn't divided into two colors

Yeah, the idea was to experiment with a range between the classic and colorful Perez and Mulletwing suit and the sleek and iconic BTNA suit. The most like the BTNA is the top middle and the most like the traditional suit is the top right. The left top and bottom were both attempts to streamline the more detailed classic suit while the bottom right was trying to add as much color and flair as possible to the blue and black. I think that my favorite is the bottom left, but I was pleasantly surprised by how well the Black and Yellow look came out.

I was pretty happy with how well the two-colored logo turned out actually. By simply making the feathers yellow, it evokes the yellow detailing of the Perez suit, retains the overall shape of the BTNA eagle that is so tied to the Nightwing brand, and the remaining portion of the blue bird is quite similar to the slim Rebirth logo that I've grown to like.

[Restingvoice]

Yeah, the idea was to experiment with a range between the classic and colorful Perez and Mulletwing suit and the sleek and iconic BTNA suit. The most like the BTNA is the top middle and the most like the traditional suit is the top right. The left top and bottom were both attempts to streamline the more detailed classic suit while the bottom right was trying to add as much color and flair as possible to the blue and black. I think that my favorite is the bottom left, but I was pleasantly surprised by how well the Black and Yellow look came out.

I was pretty happy with how well the two-colored logo turned out actually. By simply making the feathers yellow, it evokes the yellow detailing of the Perez suit, retains the overall shape of the BTNA eagle that is so tied to the Nightwing brand, and the remaining portion of the blue bird is quite similar to the slim Rebirth logo that I've grown to like.

I see I see

Wait, try the top left, but make the logo light blue and the collar yellow. Flip them around. I'm curious.

[Pohzee]

I see I see

Wait, try the top left, but make the logo light blue and the collar yellow. Flip them around. I'm curious.

Here ya go. There's three variations of that for ya. Plus two more closer to Mulletwing for funsies. (And so I could re-use my template )


I'm not a huge fan, but my brother says it gives him Invincible vibes. I definitely still prefer the black and blue overall, but some of these would be fun for something styled in a semi-retro fashion like The Batman Brave and the Bold was or as an early Nightwing costume like the Rocafort one.