Dick Grayson: Robin / Nightwing Appreciation 2020

[Drako]

I'm pretty sure Snyder already said it's a Nightwing story about how Dick and Bruce are different from each other when it comes to crime fighting.

[Pohzee]

Yes, but some people (frustratingly) will just use Nightwing to describe a Dick Grayson story, regardless of mantle.

[Ascended]

If the story of Snyder is about Dick as Batman, I think that would only contribute to the idea that Nightwing is a lesser identity.

I said the exact same thing when we first heard about the project.

Far as I know, we have no idea what the project actually is, beyond an exploration of the differences between Dick and Bruce, and that the story will do flashbacks covering Dick's journey and development, from Robin to Nightwing to Batman to (I think?) Agent 37.

It *could* be a Nightwing story. It *could* be a DickBats story. I don't think we know for certain, but going by what I've seen Snyder say I suspect it's DickBats. But that's just a guess.

I *hope* it's Nightwing. If it's not then yes, this is just a Batman story with someone else in the cowl and it will do nothing for Nightwing himself.

[Grayson - The Dark Heir]

I don't think anything Agent 37 ever came up, just Robin, Nightwing, and Batman.

As for animation, if you want good quality Nightwing you really only have Young Justice. The animated movies, even when decent, don't do enough of a good job with the character to be noteworthy, and besides that he rarely appears in anything else. There were those toyetic Batman animated movies, not sure whether those are still ongoing but that was decent at least.

[AmiMizuno]

Treat while he doesn't appear much in the animation movies at least he does a better job than the new 52. Makes you wonder if doing a animated movie for Nightwing was matter. He has the fanbase. It's just the cast that matters

[Digifiend]

I said the exact same thing when we first heard about the project.

Far as I know, we have no idea what the project actually is, beyond an exploration of the differences between Dick and Bruce, and that the story will do flashbacks covering Dick's journey and development, from Robin to Nightwing to Batman to (I think?) Agent 37.

It *could* be a Nightwing story. It *could* be a DickBats story. I don't think we know for certain, but going by what I've seen Snyder say I suspect it's DickBats. But that's just a guess.

I *hope* it's Nightwing. If it's not then yes, this is just a Batman story with someone else in the cowl and it will do nothing for Nightwing himself.

He can't currently be Batman if Agent 37 is part of his history, as that came after his second stint in the cowl.

[Restingvoice]

Snyder's Dick Batman story is the story he didn't get to tell when he was writing that era
That's what I remember he said in the interview, that's the only info I got, and I don't expect it to be anymore or less than that.

[Ascended]

He can't currently be Batman if Agent 37 is part of his history, as that came after his second stint in the cowl.

Oh yeah, that's true.

Snyder's Dick Batman story is the story he didn't get to tell when he was writing that era
That's what I remember he said in the interview, that's the only info I got, and I don't expect it to be anymore or less than that.

Yup. The only question is if Snyder will adapt the story for the current state of things or if it'll be set off on its own as either an Elseworlds or a "untold tales" story.

From what I've heard him say, Snyder could possibly take his story, put Dick in the Nightwing suit, and have him baby sitting Gotham while Bruce is out of town and it wouldn't change much. So it's *possible* it'll be a in continuity Nightwing tale. I don't think it will be, but from what I've heard it's possible. I'm sure we'll just get DickBats, but until we know for sure I don't like to discount any options yknow?

[Badou]

Maybe it will have some continuity elements, but it will be its own thing. I can't imagine it will be in continuity if it is going to be a Black Label book. I think Snyder just wants to tell this retrospective Dick Grayson story about how he is as a hero compared to Bruce and go through his time as Robin, Nightwing, and Batman while being set in Gotham.

[Ascended]

That's what I assume. But until we get a real announcement we don't *know.*

[AmiMizuno]

Other than being the first Robin. What makes Dick a remember character? I think it's the fact even in the darkest hours. He is still always looking at the bright side of things. Also, I feel like that's one of the reasons I would like to see more Superman and Nightwing. Like he is the reason Dick picked that name. So why not have Dick and him hang out. Although now that D went Clark and Superman are the same I don't know

[Wingin' It]

What are your hopes/expectations from Nightwing's return in Batman 99/100?

[Grayson - The Dark Heir]

My expectations are pretty low. I'm expecting a pretty by the numbers appearance for Nightwing: Dick shows up, he acts friendly, makes some quips, they do some DickBabs teasing, and he encourages Bruce. They won't acknowledge Alfred, Roy, Wally, anything with the Titans, or the general state of the DCU at all, and they definitely won't touch on Bruce slapping Tim or pushing Damian away.

My only hope is that the Dick-Slade rivalry is properly revived, if only briefly. It happening in a Batman event would at least mean it'll be harder to ignore again lol.

[Wingin' It]

My expectations are pretty low. I'm expecting a pretty by the numbers appearance for Nightwing: Dick shows up, he acts friendly, makes some quips, they do some DickBabs teasing, and he encourages Bruce. They won't acknowledge Alfred, Roy, Wally, anything with the Titans, or the general state of the DCU at all, and they definitely won't touch on Bruce slapping Tim or pushing Damian away.

My only hope is that the Dick-Slade rivalry is properly revived, if only briefly. It happening in a Batman event would at least mean it'll be harder to ignore again lol.

I agree, but they won't really have time to touch on things that happened so long in the past I assume unless it's in Dick's solo title. I too got excited when Tynion touched on Dick and Slade's rivalry a few weeks ago.

Speaking of, do we have any idea what the plans are for the Nightwing title after Joker War/Metal concludes? I know Jurgens is staying on after Joker War, but I thought there were rumors of another creative team down the pipeline.

[DurararaFTW]

What are your hopes/expectations from Nightwing's return in Batman 99/100?

His reaction to Alfred's death to be heartfelt. I don't have any hope for anything else.

I agree, but they won't really have time to touch on things that happened so long in the past I assume unless it's in Dick's solo title. I too got excited when Tynion touched on Dick and Slade's rivalry a few weeks ago.

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