Zac: I think it’s a gray area. I think the best X-Men villains end up becoming X-Men at some point. I think that’s the nice cyclical nature of these stories. They’re all f----d up, they’re all damaged and at any given point in X-Men history, someone steps to the front. They’re like, I have the solution, I figured it out. Then it ends up becoming a huge clusterfuck and then you do that for 70 years on repeat. But yeah, I think he sees himself as a hero who was trying to do something.
In the most sort of generous interpretation of the way Age of X-Man and House of X and Powers of X came across, you can see how those two things kind of played with one another and that you’re giving this sort of utopia to help them realize they are separate and distinct and worthy of respect. And then you go into the Hickman era and see how that carries through, and I think that’s the sort of lasting legacy of Nate showing mutants they are worth separating themselves and they are more valuable because of what makes them different.