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    Paintings by Jo Woolley, AlexZXArt and Issa Ibrahim:

    "As a child, I remember watching Christopher Reeves as Superman and Lynda Carter on television as Wonder woman so I thought it would be fun to draw them, but in the up-to-date suits Henry Cavill and Gal Gadot wear 😍"


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    "Here's one to my special person that makes me better than I could be alone. To the person that fills me with purpose and light. To the one that sticks by my side through life. The person that I can call home. ❤✍🤘 #manga ##wonderwoman #superman #romance #love"


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    "Thinking hard on exhibiting in this years #nycomiccon in October..."


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    Paintings by Morris, Issa Ibrahim and MNQOBI:

    "I really have no words, so I did what I do best. #memorial #covid_19 #crisis #hope #brightfuture #remember #stayhome #doyourpart #itsnotaboutyou #love"


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    "Damn this virus!!... here's my painting Superhero Holocaust indicating the Justice League won't be helping us with this one...be safe, be vigilant, be your own hero and look after the vulnerable"


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    "THE SOCIAL JUSTICE LEAGUE, 1968 - Kathleen Cleaver as WONDER WOMAN Muhammad Ali as KAL-EL (Superman)"


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    Drawings by Cius Chung, Jamie Starr and Kate Isaacs:

    "Hereís a sketch of Wonder Woman showing off her arm gains, and Super Man showing off his scrumptious buttocks. If youíre disturbed then congratulations you now know how I feel whenever I keep seeing female heroes portrayed that way in comic books (but thankfully times are changing)! ☺️😂"


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    "Now that I finally have some time off thanks to the Apocalypse. I can get back to some old paintings I never finished. Here are two of them. Classic golden age Superman cover and classic Wonder Woman comic cover."


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    "My first piece for comics vs art. I did a comic adaptation of The Circus by Charles Demuth"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Son of Krypton View Post
    ^^^Is there anything with SM/WW that hasn't yet been produced, lol?
    🤔 Doesnít seem like it. Thatís what makes SMWW so great!

    Is this a companion article to the one you posted some time ago: 5 Reasons Wonder Woman Is Perfect For Superman? 😂

    Btw, is it me or CBR is coming up with new articles related to SM/WW every week? I'd like to see one exploring their comic history. A lot to dig there. It could be informative for many.
    Yep it is 🤗

    I would honestly like to see an article like that as well. Why not even review the collections book? Either way, there needs to be more articles that are truthful to Superman and Wonder Woman as individual characters and as a duo. Iíve had quite enough of the bias stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by Celgress View Post
    A shame the DC Office stubbornly refuses to do anything much with the concept of SMWW, even in an Elseworlds setting. As the content of these posts show (cosplay photographs, merchandise, and social media), SMWW is a rare universal concept that cuts across all divisions.
    It is a shame. DC wants a concept that can be exactly what SMWW is but refuses to use SMWW itself. And still wonder why they canít get the interests of the general audience. Itís counterproductive.

    SMWW even as elseworlds would make a bigger impact than their mainline and thats not whatís wanted given the status quo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Son of Krypton View Post
    Paintings by Morris, Issa Ibrahim and MNQOBI:

    "I really have no words, so I did what I do best. #memorial #covid_19 #crisis #hope #brightfuture #remember #stayhome #doyourpart #itsnotaboutyou #love"


    https://www.instagram.com/p/B-QdXLNDZR5/

    "Damn this virus!!... here's my painting Superhero Holocaust indicating the Justice League won't be helping us with this one...be safe, be vigilant, be your own hero and look after the vulnerable"


    https://www.instagram.com/p/B9rgdCrgv8j/

    "THE SOCIAL JUSTICE LEAGUE, 1968 - Kathleen Cleaver as WONDER WOMAN Muhammad Ali as KAL-EL (Superman)"


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    No two heroes have represented social causes better. And together they present the message in a powerful way because they represent the world.

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    Handpainted Superman/Wonder Woman Themed Shoes:

    "Whoís your favorite superhero?"




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    "Wonder woman 💙❤️ Superman love."

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    https://www.instagram.com/p/B9KlWLlnehO/

    "Custom Shoes Brides line - Wonder Woman & Superman theme ❤👊"



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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Son of Krypton View Post
    The SM/WW concept would really be a dream come true for every company due to its marketing versatility. Don't get what should happen to have WB/DC finally realizing it. Į\_(ツ)_/Į
    Other companies are already taking advantage of the concept. Netflix Jupiter Legacy promo tagline is literally ďWhat if Superman and Wonder Woman has kids...Ē. Astro City, Trill League, and Squadron are in possible development that utilizes the concept as one of the main elements. Why let others succeed on the very concept they have had and they are struggling to reach audiences and new fans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Celgress View Post
    IMO, DC Comics desperately needs people with a fresh viewpoint who aren't industry insiders obsessed with recreating their childhoods reading comics by the greats. It isn't the 1980s or 1970s anymore. The damsel in distress rescued by her hero love interest paradigm is outdated and culturally irrelevant. The power couple dynamic who share in each other's challenges and rewards is where it is at.
    This. Not sure with it being clearly evident, why itís so hard to accept.

    Quote Originally Posted by Last Son of Krypton View Post
    It's not like such dynamic is new to writers as DC has many pairs that fit into it (such as AquaMera or Dinah/Ollie...) but where it could have much more impact with SM/WW is totally underdeveloped and underestimated.
    Thatís the big difference. Majority of the other couples are ďtraditionalĒ but they donít represent and have the message SMWW has. What makes SMWW stand out even more so is that itís not the usual traditional pair but yet their worlds connect seamlessly and brings challenges to both characters.

    You know that for DC, BM is the one and only King and SM can be his Queen at most. 😂
    Thatís.... sad.... even sadder being true.


    Quote Originally Posted by LadyP View Post
    Precisely. And the bolded parts especially. Like I have quoted in the past, pride comes before the fall. So it's quite interesting to observe where things are now after all the deliberate sabotaging of SMWW. Was it worth it? 🤷🏾*♀️
    The deliberate sabotage wasnít worth it given how what it was sabotaged for didnít/hasnít met expectations. And like I said in a previous post, Superman and Wonder Woman are back in a stagnant state.

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    Superman/Wonder Woman Pillows/Plushies:

    "I chose sequins and my favorite heroes! I loved the combination !!! 💛"

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    "May the force be with us . . . Distant But Close! . . . #love #pandemic #missyou #rememberme #dianaandkal"


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    "His and her couch finally putting a little me into the house #stayhome"


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    "Good morning ☀️"


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    "SuperheroesAgainstCorona #myhome #myhomestyle #lovehome"


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    "Wonder Woman and Superman"


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    Quote Originally Posted by hellacre View Post
    How are you doing, my friends? In this very hard time my thoughts go out to all , esp those on the frontline. Our true heroes from health to supermarket workers and so many more. SMWW would be proud.
    We stay positive and take it one day at a time. I believe this has really shown a lot. But indeed SMWW would be proud.

    Yes this was a good article. At least it was not retreading the trite, they have only matching uniforms and powers cliches, people who do not understand Clark and Diana like to spew.

    Being an outsider is challenging but it does not have to be a negative thing. It's an unique space. We have humans who feel like this whether they have an illness or suffer alienation or condition or even a gift that sets them apart from the rest of us. Metas feel this too, just on a different scale.But Clark and Diana do not allow their differences to make them stay apart from humanity and this is where their personalities come in. They care about others and the world around them. They have good hearts. They will always try to use their gifts to better the world for as long as they could. This is why Clark giving up his gifts for reasons like...Oh I want to be normal and not think about anything blah blah is so weak and so unbecoming of the character. I just do not see Superman doing that for his personal comfort as they make him do in some movies or tv. This is somehow equated with love. Honestly to me that is not love. I do not see Diana wanting him to do that. She wants him to be the best he could be. Surely as a long lived alien, he has the capacity to help humanity for many many decades, even centuries. Why would you give that up after operating for brief time? Up to even Batman is shown to have fought for justice until his body was broken and him an old man. Superman deliberately just giving up his powers to play house while the world around him needs him to me is a disappointment. It in facts shows a man who has no mettle and is not a hero but a dude who got powers and did not have the spine or will to be for the greater good. I also do not see Diana deliberately doing this for anyone either. If your powers are of part of your physiology, losing them would make you feel as if when a person loses a limb or a sense like feeling blind. Why should they even have to give it up and what the heck does that have to do with love??? I honestly think some of these troupes are so outdated.

    I also see with Diana he embraces parts of himself he suppresses in this effort to fit in. I loved Soule raised these questions in his run and Miller does it too. Clark is a man of two worlds. Not just one. Writers need to stop being so wishy washy & be honest and examine what being alien would look like in our world. Diana would never allow Clark to give up, or the idea either would turn evil if one or the other dies is so ridiculous. Again this is a troupe they seem to try to equate with love in the mythos. But it's just showing up a weak willed individual who is mentally unsound. Millions of people lose people, homes, countries and they don't turn evil for one person. If they do go off the deep end or cannot move on in time, then that love taught them nothing much worth remembering. Diana and Clark, when written well, can keep each other real and in touch and in check on every level. No one is more truthful to Clark than Diana and vice versa. Question, is are writers in touch that they are willing to allow both to listen and answer those questions.

    Co signed.

    Those conversations that Clark and Diana used to have. Notice how the current writers don't even want to give them any panels for it. Compare what we used to get from post crisis Perez through to Loeb,Jimenez , Cooke, Waid and so many of more to new 52 and elseworlds. Examine those conversations. Deep. Resonant. Empathetic. Challenging. Tender. Sometimes fun. It's not about singing odes that they could not be who they are without the other. No. That does not even make sense to me when writers do that. Does a doctor or scientist stop being what they are if they can't sleep with x or y? No. I really do not understand why DC tries to make love interests define heroes and their motivations. It's just lazy writing to say x needs y to be who he/she is or having x lay it on so thick about the love interest as if he/she alone in this vast wide world inspires the hero.

    SMWW can be who they are without each other. That is the point in being who they are. They are supposed to be individuals who are heroes. But they are also good together. That is also the point of being a power couple. It's about personal responsibility to self and the world, giving emotional support, listening, offering counsel to each other etc., allowing each other to be the best they can, learning, making mistakes as well but growing and never losing sight of the greater good. I don't want SMWW perfect because no one is but I don't want contrived nonsense tossed at them that other writers try to do either. I long for the day someone can write SMWW the way we use to have them. Since Rebirth I honestly have not read one decent conversation between them. There was only one moment to my knowledge, that was the wordless touch in Heroes in Crisis but I think that should be credited to Clay Mann's expertise as an artist than King really caring for them as a duo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Son of Krypton View Post
    Yeah. In hindsight, SM/WW should've stayed till the end. As well as having Diana in a more relevant role in their last movie because she was there since the start of their animated continuity.

    The Damian/Raven relationship started around the same time and they are keep developing it in their last movie.
    SMWW still had more development than even Damian/Raven however, Damian/Raven is overall irrelevant to the main status quo. Boiling down to yet again preference. Itís been admitted of having an ďold schoolĒ mindset and wanting to break up SMWW anyway down the line even without any true valid reason. Itís just been poorly handled all around and it doesnít do any good but make people lose interest and thereís no point in investing with these kind of petty unprofessional dealings.

    It was again pointless overall because Wonder Woman just had another origin story and mishmash other stuff diluting material and Superman had to die...again as well as 180 characterization because thatís the only effort put into the characters and what defines them it seems. Origin and Death.

    Quote Originally Posted by hellacre View Post
    No two heroes have represented social causes better. And together they present the message in a powerful way because they represent the world.


    Facts! All the more shameful how these two characters are being so mishandled

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveStar View Post
    🤔 Doesnít seem like it. Thatís what makes SMWW so great!
    Exactly.

    Yep it is 🤗

    I would honestly like to see an article like that as well. Why not even review the collections book? Either way, there needs to be more articles that are truthful to Superman and Wonder Woman as individual characters and as a duo. Iíve had quite enough of the bias stuff.
    The more the merrier. 😜 Still nice to nice new articles every now and then.

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    No two heroes have represented social causes better. And together they present the message in a powerful way because they represent the world.
    Indeed. 😎

    Quote Originally Posted by LoveStar View Post
    Other companies are already taking advantage of the concept. Netflix Jupiter Legacy promo tagline is literally ďWhat if Superman and Wonder Woman has kids...Ē. Astro City, Trill League, and Squadron are in possible development that utilizes the concept as one of the main elements. Why let others succeed on the very concept they have had and they are struggling to reach audiences and new fans?
    I guess that alternate takes of SM/WW (especially rip-offs) have less baggage to deal with, and can embrace the concept more easily.

    Quote Originally Posted by LoveStar View Post
    SMWW still had more development than even Damian/Raven however, Damian/Raven is overall irrelevant to the main status quo. Boiling down to yet again preference. Itís been admitted of having an ďold schoolĒ mindset and wanting to break up SMWW anyway down the line even without any true valid reason. Itís just been poorly handled all around and it doesnít do any good but make people lose interest and thereís no point in investing with these kind of petty unprofessional dealings.

    It was again pointless overall because Wonder Woman just had another origin story and mishmash other stuff diluting material and Superman had to die...again as well as 180 characterization because thatís the only effort put into the characters and what defines them it seems. Origin and Death.
    Yeah, I know. But I would've still preferred more coherence from start to finish. As well as having another 'verse where their relationship keep going even if off-screen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Son of Krypton View Post
    The more the merrier. 😜 Still nice to nice new articles every now and then.
    True... true...

    I guess that alternate takes of SM/WW (especially rip-offs) have less baggage to deal with, and can embrace the concept more easily.
    SMWW has been easily accepted by who suppose to matter, which is the audiences, right? The ďbaggageĒ is bags of dust...

    Yeah, I know. But I would've still preferred more coherence from start to finish. As well as having another 'verse where their relationship keep going even if off-screen.
    Itís all about preference as I said. Coherence isnít in mind when it comes to forcing bias narratives and preference.

    It would be ideal to have respected the verse and let it continue its organic development. But nah... thatís too difficult, takes too much time and effort.

    Also, I get the feeling it turns into a competition of whatís a success and harder to push certain narratives. If one or the other outsells, thatís one that should and obligated you get more push and effort. However, if that doesnít fit whatís preferred, itís purposely screwed over at all costs, cut and stuck with this one option. Which is what we have now....

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveStar View Post
    Itís all about preference as I said. Coherence isnít in mind when it comes to forcing bias narratives and preference.

    It would be ideal to have respected the verse and let it continue its organic development. But nah... thatís too difficult, takes too much time and effort.

    Also, I get the feeling it turns into a competition of whatís a success and harder to push certain narratives. If one or the other outsells, thatís one that should and obligated you get more push and effort. However, if that doesnít fit whatís preferred, itís purposely screwed over at all costs, cut and stuck with this one option. Which is what we have now....
    Yeah, if DC Animation would've produced a SM/WW DTV animated movie, it would've likely sold as much as their JL and BM movies and become a potential 3rd big seller franchise to add to the other 2 mentioned. Knowing, in hindsight, one of the producer's intention, there shouldn't have been a chance for the pair to show how much it can sell on its own.

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