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    Tezenis Superhero Collection: Superman and Wonder Woman

    “And for SUPER dreams 🤩, here are our new pajamas from the WONDER WOMAN and SUPERMAN collection 🦸🏻🦸🏼🤪”

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    “Every little kid is a super hero!💥”

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    “🦸*♂️Superman Vs Wonder Woman🦸*♀️”

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    “A family of true superheroes."

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    “AND WHICH SUPERHERO ARE YOU?”

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    “ #tezenis #meandyou #superhero #superman #wonderwoman #couple #instafashion”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Son of Krypton View Post
    Another hopeless romantic detected. 😜


    Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa!

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    Good morning folks! Stay safe, stay indoors, keep your mind clean, open, full of positive thoughts! Read good books, reread good comic books, watch movies of all the genres you love! Make babies! Music is essential! Stroll through all genres, take the opportunity to meet new ones! Keep your mind and body healthy at most! This crisis will pass! Our heroes represent HOPE and TRUTH, let us be influenced by them in these difficult days!

    "I hope you’re all staying safe out there and that we return to some semblance of normal soon.
    Until then, here’s a throwback to this awesome clip made by @superpowercinematics at @floridasupercon last year with @lis.wonder."







    https://www.instagram.com/p/B-R09z8g..._web_copy_link
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deiasilva10 View Post
    In these times of crisis we must thank God (if you believe in Him) and human goodness. We must thank the true heroes ... whoever says that Superman and Wonder Woman does not exist is simply ignoring that they exist within each professional who ventures in this crisis for the sake of the next. Bravo! All my respect and gratitude to them.

    "Thanks to the women and men who are working tirelessly for all of us during #COVID19.⁠ ⁠Today, we honor the true Wonder Women and Supermen!⁠ ⁠ Thank you to the doctors.⁠ Thank you to the nurses.⁠ Thank you to the grocery store employees.⁠ Thank you to the truckers.⁠ Thank you to the janitors.⁠ Thank you to the food service workers.⁠ Thank you to the mailmen and mailwoman.⁠ Thank you!⁠"

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    "Tribute to the real heroes #coronavirus #superman #wonderwoman # poweroflove"



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    "The Real Superheroes. They are ready to care for us and keep us well, even if they have to sacrifice time with their families. #covid_19 #stayathome #keephealthy #keepclean"



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    "STRENGTH and COURAGE to all our caregivers!!! #hospitalsoffrance #covid_19 #ourheros #superman #wonderwoman #stayhome"

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    "Isolate yourself in home and do the best you can. Let's fight the pandemic together. Keep your body and mind clean and healthy. Wash your hands with soap or sanitizer. #breakthechain"

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    "Thank you for all the Real world Heroes who are working in health care today. They are fighting for us, We just stay home to help the world. This art is dedicated to all heroes #stayhome #quarantine #socialdistancing #awarness #superman #wonderwoman"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Son of Krypton View Post
    ^^^Not surprised to see the content of this thread becoming more reflective of the current situation one way or another.
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    Certainly. Just like the characters for whom this thread was created were representative of the current issues of their time when they originally appeared so are the contents of this thread, I guess you can say.
    The pics and the captions!! WOW!

    It’s no surprise at all Superman and Wonder Woman are the main heroic characters used to represent(as individuals and together) the real heroes of the world during this pandemic. This is why these two, no matter what, remain the most important of all.

    Superman and Wonder Woman are suppose to have stories that touch on real world crisis, to help motivate and inspire. It’s so heartwarming to see this kind of artwork from such creative fans. I hope that DC sees some of these and realize what should be priority storytelling and character wise. To have a Superman/Wonder Woman story actually touching upon real topics w/o some bias agenda that can truly resonate with the audience is very much needed.

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    About the SM/WW romance being referenced in WW #754:

    "I asked Steve Orlando about this. He said he wanted to go for that Morrison-style “It all happened” approach to Wonder Woman."
    https://twitter.com/AlexJaffe/status...47618382249984

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    SuperWonder Accessories

    "A 🔆SUPER🔆 couple. Creative inspirations to VALUE love 💖 #stayathome"

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    "Love ❤️ #bracelets #superman #wonderwoman"

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    "A 🔆SUPER🔆 couple. Creative inspirations to VALUE love 💖 #stayathome"

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    "Another superhero theme jewelry piece - necklace this time. I'm kinda liking these new themed pieces 💜"

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    "Gorgeous Wonder Woman and Superman keychains! 🙅*♀️🙅🏻*♂️ #creativegifts"

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    "A super duo 👊❤️ Who will you share it with?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Son of Krypton View Post
    About the SM/WW romance being referenced in WW #754:

    "I asked Steve Orlando about this. He said he wanted to go for that Morrison-style “It all happened” approach to Wonder Woman."
    https://twitter.com/AlexJaffe/status...47618382249984
    fixing Orlando's speech: "I asked Steve Orlando about this. He said he wanted to go for that Morrison-style “It all is a mess and I don't know what is going on but the romance is cool” approach to Wonder Woman. "

    Because that's what "It all happened" means! It means that a person can be in two places at the same time, have contradictory behaviors, different origins, that time does not run as it should, that the year has 1000 days for them, that they lived 20 years in 5 and any other nonsense! It means that they care little or nothing for a minimum coherence, it means that no matter how lazy, poorly finished and incoherent the story sounds, they will do it because they want to and not because they may think the reader will like it. It means that instead of using the creative side they prefer to use the lazy side. It means they think the reader of comics has an IQ of 60 at most!

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    SuperWonder Couples’ Aprons

    “WE ARE HOME ...#loveisintheair”

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    "We prepare a Bundt cake just to get fat. #quarantine #tomorrowdiet"

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    "Six months ... ♥ ️🥰😍 👏👏👏👏 #superdaddy"

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    "⚡️🍴👩🏻*🍳👨🏼*🍳🍴⚡️ #youandme #love #cooking #👩🏻*🍳 #🍴#💋 #💛 #❤️ #iloveyou"



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    "Dynamic duo having too much fun at work !!! #dreamteam"

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    ^^^I guess that in this time of quarantine, SM/WW aprons pics will end up outnumbering the cosplays ones. 🙃

    Quote Originally Posted by Deiasilva10 View Post
    fixing Orlando's speech: "I asked Steve Orlando about this. He said he wanted to go for that Morrison-style “It all is a mess and I don't know what is going on but the romance is cool” approach to Wonder Woman. "

    Because that's what "It all happened" means! It means that a person can be in two places at the same time, have contradictory behaviors, different origins, that time does not run as it should, that the year has 1000 days for them, that they lived 20 years in 5 and any other nonsense! It means that they care little or nothing for a minimum coherence, it means that no matter how lazy, poorly finished and incoherent the story sounds, they will do it because they want to and not because they may think the reader will like it. It means that instead of using the creative side they prefer to use the lazy side. It means they think the reader of comics has an IQ of 60 at most!
    I feel Orlando's approach is sincere. Unlike his predecessors, he didn't come in to discard everything and push his take on WW. He built upon the past, bringing back stuff from all of WW's history. It all matters: forgotten villains from previous eras as well as Diana's prominent romance with Kal.

    I didn't liked that, during Rebirth, both SM and WW underwent changes and revisionism disguised as a restoration of the past. What kind of return of the classic was having Diana's connection to Paradise Island being retroactively removed? Or have the worst selling SM book ever made (Jurgens' L&C series) becoming the backbone of SM's history with him self retired living on a farm for majority of his superhero career?

    Orlando's (or Morrison's) approach isn't anything like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Son of Krypton View Post
    About the SM/WW romance being referenced in WW #754:

    "I asked Steve Orlando about this. He said he wanted to go for that Morrison-style “It all happened” approach to Wonder Woman."
    https://twitter.com/AlexJaffe/status...47618382249984
    Quote Originally Posted by Deiasilva10 View Post
    fixing Orlando's speech: "I asked Steve Orlando about this. He said he wanted to go for that Morrison-style “It all is a mess and I don't know what is going on but the romance is cool” approach to Wonder Woman. "

    Because that's what "It all happened" means! It means that a person can be in two places at the same time, have contradictory behaviors, different origins, that time does not run as it should, that the year has 1000 days for them, that they lived 20 years in 5 and any other nonsense! It means that they care little or nothing for a minimum coherence, it means that no matter how lazy, poorly finished and incoherent the story sounds, they will do it because they want to and not because they may think the reader will like it. It means that instead of using the creative side they prefer to use the lazy side. It means they think the reader of comics has an IQ of 60 at most!
    It’s great that at one writer is unbiased. It all happened is a great approach...if we had them separate, not trying to mix everything with one version of the character. As Deia points out it’s way too many contradictions with origins, events, interactions and dynamics period. There are specific time frames timeframes within some of these books. You can’t say this happened too at that time. Too many holes and questions. It also end up diluted things.

    We see how so much appeal and care was taken away with having stuff happen off panel/page in such a rushed way. Flash no substance. Characters becoming talking heads but nothing actually shown except for the minimal of what’s to be expected/accepted.

    Quote Originally Posted by Last Son of Krypton View Post
    ^^^I guess that in this time of quarantine, SM/WW aprons pics will end up outnumbering the cosplays ones. 🙃
    Superman and Wonder Woman continuing to have such a positive presence at this time is amazing.

    I feel Orlando's approach is sincere. Unlike his predecessors, he didn't come in to discard everything and push his take on WW. He built upon the past, bringing back stuff from all of WW's history. It all matters: forgotten villains from previous eras as well as Diana's prominent romance with Kal.

    I didn't liked that, during Rebirth, both SM and WW underwent changes and revisionism disguised as a restoration of the past. What kind of return of the classic was having Diana's connection to Paradise Island being retroactively removed? Or have the worst selling SM book ever made (Jurgens' L&C series) becoming the backbone of SM's history with him self retired living on a farm for majority of his superhero career?

    Orlando's (or Morrison's) approach isn't anything like that.
    Orlando’s sincerity is very much appreciated. However, it’s not against him but at DC’s handling of SMWW and the transition to rebirth status quo.

    As you stated above, the drastic revisionism was ridiculous, not only done in comics but animation too and quite honestly, both was worthless given both characters are right back in a stagnant state, which gave the reason for the reboot in the first place. New52 even with flaws, didn’t need to be debooted/cut as it was especially for the bold part. Nothing was wrong with sales. That has been stated multiple times but seems to go over heads and purposely ignored. What was needed, was communication, respect and time everything else seems to be given to develop and show its worth....
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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveStar View Post
    It’s great that at one writer is unbiased. It all happened is a great approach...if we had them separate, not trying to mix everything with one version of the character. As Deia points out it’s way too many contradictions with origins, events, interactions and dynamics period. There are specific time frames timeframes within some of these books. You can’t say this happened too at that time. Too many holes and questions. It also end up diluted things.

    We see how so much appeal and care was taken away with having stuff happen off panel/page in such a rushed way. Flash no substance. Characters becoming talking heads but nothing actually shown except for the minimal of what’s to be expected/accepted.

    This new position adopted by DC, that everything happened and is valid, is ridiculous! In addition to not having enough time for everything to have happened because they had different origins, different relationships, heroes would react differently! For example, Diana broke Max Lord's neck because she loved Clark so much that she did not allow him to be manipulated by Max anymore, so that he could not suffer and enter a process of self-destruction upon learning that he killed loved ones! Without that love, would she react the same way? She didn't react like that with the death of her sister, nephew, mother, Batman ... no one else! Why? What about the thousand years that passed in Aesgard? Didn't they mean anything? Didn't make them closer? A thousand years together and they don't even talk? This is ridiculous! You can even claim that this is only important for older fans, who have read the old stories but ... wait! If I am a novice reader, I see a reference in a certain story I will hunt down the old story and see how it happened! And how will I react when I see all the differences? I will feel cheated! I'm going to feel that DC thinks I'm an idiot, that I swallow any crap!


    Superman and Wonder Woman continuing to have such a positive presence at this time is amazing.



    Orlando’s sincerity is very much appreciated. However, it’s not against him but at DC’s handling of SMWW and the transition to rebirth status quo.
    I still want to see what Orlando is capable of with a character like WW (not Rebirth ... she has no salvation) but without the burden of being a temporary writer. I believe he uses an excess of characters and situations in a hurry because he knows that his time with her is short. I want to see what he is capable of developing with time and complete freedom.


    As you stated above, the drastic revisionism was ridiculous, not only done in comics but animation too and quite honestly, both was worthless given both characters are right back in a stagnant state, which gave the reason for the reboot in the first place. New52 even with flaws, didn’t need to be debooted/cut as it was especially for the bold part. Nothing was wrong with sales. That has been stated multiple times but seems to go over heads and purposely ignored. What was needed, was communication, respect and time everything else seems to be given to develop and show its worth....
    We all agreed that new 52 was flawed but when was DC perfect? Not even after COIE, which was a complete reboot, was there perfection! New 52 needed adjustments but it seems that irrational hatred, prejudice (YES PREJUDICE), "exaggerated feminism" and all nonsense won the logic and new 52 was mistreated, beaten, sabotaged and erased! Now I find it very funny to have gentle references to the period, including SMWW. Such failures were never justification for new 52 to suffer as it did ... Rebirth always had more holes than a Swiss cheese and DC tried to convince us that it was a masterpiece ... it was not for nothing that it was swept under the rug as if the company was ashamed of what it did! Rebirth was born doomed to failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deiasilva10 View Post
    This new position adopted by DC, that everything happened and is valid, is ridiculous! In addition to not having enough time for everything to have happened because they had different origins, different relationships, heroes would react differently! For example, Diana broke Max Lord's neck because she loved Clark so much that she did not allow him to be manipulated by Max anymore, so that he could not suffer and enter a process of self-destruction upon learning that he killed loved ones! Without that love, would she react the same way? She didn't react like that with the death of her sister, nephew, mother, Batman ... no one else! Why? What about the thousand years that passed in Aesgard? Didn't they mean anything? Didn't make them closer? A thousand years together and they don't even talk? This is ridiculous! You can even claim that this is only important for older fans, who have read the old stories but ... wait! If I am a novice reader, I see a reference in a certain story I will hunt down the old story and see how it happened! And how will I react when I see all the differences? I will feel cheated! I'm going to feel that DC thinks I'm an idiot, that I swallow any crap!
    It dilutes a lot. DC has done a lot of telling without much of showing since the start of rebirth.

    What makes us care is going through the journey with the characters organically. Going by bias preferences, revisionism, cut, copy, paste, is not the way to be.

    I still want to see what Orlando is capable of with a character like WW (not Rebirth ... she has no salvation) but without the burden of being a temporary writer. I believe he uses an excess of characters and situations in a hurry because he knows that his time with her is short. I want to see what he is capable of developing with time and complete freedom.
    A writer like Orlando who actually researches the character history, gives respect to aspects instead of trying to warp the character into what he thinks is right and true is very much needed.

    We all agreed that new 52 was flawed but when was DC perfect? Not even after COIE, which was a complete reboot, was there perfection! New 52 needed adjustments but it seems that irrational hatred, prejudice (YES PREJUDICE), "exaggerated feminism" and all nonsense won the logic and new 52 was mistreated, beaten, sabotaged and erased! Now I find it very funny to have gentle references to the period, including SMWW. Such failures were never justification for new 52 to suffer as it did ... Rebirth always had more holes than a Swiss cheese and DC tried to convince us that it was a masterpiece ... it was not for nothing that it was swept under the rug as if the company was ashamed of what it did! Rebirth was born doomed to failure.
    Exactly!

    LOL!!!!! Swiss cheese....

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