Thor Odinson: God of Thunder Appreciation 2020

[CaptainMar-Vell92 of the Kree]

Yeah, while I certainly enjoy character interaction in a story as well as epic battles, I've noticed more than a few times in some contemporary comics where a fight scene is no more than four panels out of the entire book, more often than not feeling forced, awkward and completely out of place, almost grudgingly tossed in because it was "required". I'm sure there are plenty of examples of four panel fights from older comics, but, for whatever reason, they always seem to stand out more in comics from the last ten years or so.

I miss fights like this.

[juan678]

art by Leandro Matos

[CaptainMar-Vell92 of the Kree]

art by Leandro Matos

Is this from JMS run?

[Intothevoid]

I miss fights like this.

That's a pretty great fight. I dunno if anyone else noticed but lots of modern fights lack the collateral damage that the fights of such scope should have. I dunno that always bothered me, it's one of the best ways to flex an artist muscles and have them even draw 2-page spreads.

There doesn't seem to be much difference in overall collateral between high-tiers and then street tiers or mid-tiers, it's kinda lam IMO.

[Frontier]

Is this from JMS run?

Probably inspired by the JMS run since Loki is female. Although Thor never had a beard in that run.

[Ascended]

That's a pretty great fight. I dunno if anyone else noticed but lots of modern fights lack the collateral damage that the fights of such scope should have. I dunno that always bothered me, it's one of the best ways to flex an artist muscles and have them even draw 2-page spreads.

There doesn't seem to be much difference in overall collateral between high-tiers and then street tiers or mid-tiers, it's kinda lam IMO.

I've noticed, and it bothers me too. Where's the sense of scope?

When Man of Steel hit theaters, so many people complained about the amount of destruction, and I was just shaking my head like "do you not read the comics? This is mild compared to stuff like Action #700 or Superman #75."

When high-tier superhumans fights, what do people expect that to looks like?

Now, I'm all for heroes attempting to minimize the damage, pull the fight to uninhabited regions, etc., but high level superhumans fighting in a city for just a minute or two is likely to destroy as much as a full scale hurricane or earthquake.

[CaptainMar-Vell92 of the Kree]

I've noticed, and it bothers me too. Where's the sense of scope?

When Man of Steel hit theaters, so many people complained about the amount of destruction, and I was just shaking my head like "do you not read the comics? This is mild compared to stuff like Action #700 or Superman #75."

When high-tier superhumans fights, what do people expect that to looks like?

Now, I'm all for heroes attempting to minimize the damage, pull the fight to uninhabited regions, etc., but high level superhumans fighting in a city for just a minute or two is likely to destroy as much as a full scale hurricane or earthquake.

It's because Supes has been presented as a All Loving Hero who puts saving lives above fighting villains since the start of the post-crisis era. So him causing plenty of collateral damage without showing him rescuing citizens is seen as Zack Snyder missing the point of Superman.

[Ichijinijisanji]

superman was a novice fighting zod a trained general

obviously he can't control the guy

[CaptainMar-Vell92 of the Kree]

superman was a novice fighting zod a trained general

obviously he can't control the guy

Doesn't make MoS less joyless and self-important though.

[The Cool Thatguy]

Doesn't make MoS less joyless and self-important though.

Yeah, agreed.

Plus, I think Superman using his powers in life action undermines suspension of disbelief, regardless of how realistic it looks.

[Ascended]

It's because Supes has been presented as a All Loving Hero who puts saving lives above fighting villains since the start of the post-crisis era. So him causing plenty of collateral damage without showing him rescuing citizens is seen as Zack Snyder missing the point of Superman.

I guess? But I can count several times in post-Crisis where Metropolis or another city just completely flattened. Hell, I think post-Crisis was harsher on Metropolis than pre-Crisis was. But you're probably right; post-Crisis really helped cement a certain idea about who Superman is, even though the character itself has rarely warranted the reputation.

I don't get why post-Crisis fans hate that movie so much. There was a whole lot of post-Crisis influence in the mix.

Sh*t. Off topic. Thor rules!!

[Cronus]

Yeah, I always did wonder why Thor back in the day bothered deflecting bullets instead of tanking them. That said, he has tanked them in one 90s story, had Volstagg's axe shatter on his chest in Oeming's run, tanked bullets in JMS's run (he had the OF though) and we know Jane with his powers is 100% bulletproof -- she has tanked them Superman style twice iirc. Different writers I guess.

In my opinion, it makes more sense for him to be invulnerable to ordinary, man-made blades/bullets but where magical/mythical weapons are concerned, all bets are off.

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[Toxin45]

Anyone remembers Surtur? Like he was the arch-enemy of Odin and rivals Loki as the primary villain in the series. The fact that he is still dead bothers me and since Loki had been changing sides multiple times still bugs me.

[Brice]

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Nice! I knew I was remembering correctly lol.

[GodThor]

Anyone remembers Surtur? Like he was the arch-enemy of Odin and rivals Loki as the primary villain in the series. The fact that he is still dead bothers me and since Loki had been changing sides multiple times still bugs me.

he is pretty much replaced by Sindr.