I think an easy way to look at Thanos stories is that anything written by Jim Starlin, Ron Marz and Keith Giffen is the real Thanos while anything written by other authors should be dismissed as a Thanosi clone.
Question about a thing in Simonson's run. Thor was tricked by one of the elf's shapeshifting, but Roger is able to see it's a trick by listening to the elf's voice. Do mortals hear the true voice of dark elves no matter what? I'm probably thinking about too hard about it lol.
I think an easy way to look at Thanos stories is that anything written by Jim Starlin, Ron Marz and Keith Giffen is the real Thanos while anything written by other authors should be dismissed as a Thanosi clone.
I think you misunderstood what happened (if we're talking about the same incident): Roger knows that "Melodi" is an elf shapechanger, not because he hears the true voice, but because the ointment that gave him the power to see the Dark Elves has been blasted out of his eyes by Malekith, so he could hear "Melodi" but couldn't see her; realising that the only reason she'd be invisible to him would be if she was actually and elf, he throws his gun at the sound of her voice.
I don't think there is anything to suggest he recognised the voice was elven, just that the peculiar circumstances of the situation meant he had an advantage in that situation that Thor did not.
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For me it's the best balanced run in terms of having a sense of humour without parodying Thor or the concept; being epic while feeling quite natural and not a contrived event to sell comics; juggling the old Norse mythological references without forgetting that Thor is also a super-hero with ties to modern Earth and its super-hero community; and introducing new supporting cast members without ditching or denigrating old ones. I think it's one of the best runs of the eighties (and the eighties had some pretty special runs).
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I think an easy way to look at Thanos stories is that anything written by Jim Starlin, Ron Marz and Keith Giffen is the real Thanos while anything written by other authors should be dismissed as a Thanosi clone.
Ditto! You'll get no argument from me, that's for sure.
Agree about there being a plethora of great runs during the 80's, but don't forget...
Michelinie/Layton's Iron Man
Frank Miller's Daredevil
Roger Stern's Spider-Man
I loved Jurgens stuff, Simonson (I liked his Orion too) and Stracynski. I wasn't a huge fan of Busiek's interpretation of Thor. Can't handle bullets. Really?
Stracynski got it right.
"Sir, does this mean that Ann Margret's not coming?"
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"One of the maddening but beautiful things about comics is that you have to give characters a sense of change without changing them so much that they violate the essence of who they are." ~ Ann Nocenti, Chris Claremont's X-Men.
That's the run (JMS) that made me a fan.
Was never a Avengers guy back in the day. I was a fan of the X and FF but (to me) the Avengers always felt like a B-team Justice League who (mostly) couldn't carry solo books. Then Iron Man hit theaters, and I dug that, and Fraction's run was made for people like me. Heard about them making a Thor film, and wanted to get into that before the movie hit. Finding the classic runs wasn't much of an option at the time, and I tried a lot of random crap that left me wondering how Thor stayed in publication until I got to JMS. And with that I was like "Ah, got it!" Been a fan ever since. And Coiple Thor is still how I envision the character (but in my head I add a beard).
And I finally managed to get the Simonson stuff last year. And that.....hot damn, that! is worthy of its reputation.
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"We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another, as if we were one single tribe."
~ Black Panther.
On the subject of writing, how are you all here feeling about Donny Cate’s writing for Thor so far?