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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainMar-Vell92 of the Kree View Post
    I just remembered this Stan Lee interview.

    Ah, wonderful stuff. Thank you for that much needed shot in the arm, a reminder of of the basic premise of Thor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wall-Crawler View Post
    Sadly Jane Thor came in and almost beat Hercules on an arm-wrestle, who proceeded to comment she did better than Odinson ever did IIRC..................bullshit
    Yup. Jane = Mary Sue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Intothevoid View Post
    The Slowdinson thing wasn't born out of nowhere. Like i am a fan of guys like Thor and Hulk way more than someone like Superman but i can tell you for a fact neither are remotely as fast as Superman.
    No arguments here. Superman is definitely faster, by leagues. But Thor as he was originally presented, was originally written in a manner that supports the notion of super speed. There were actually feats from way back when that suggest Thor had super speed, although not on the level of Superman. Sadly, those types of feats for Thor have gone the way of the dinosaur.

    A few years ago there were some Thor fans on another site that would legit argue that Thor is as fast if not faster than Superman, this pissed off the rest of the forums so people started collecting all the scenes where Thor gets trounced in speed by everyone from other powerhouses to random monsters to bricks to even street tier characters and believe me there were a ton of feats like that, so the Slowdinson meme was born, it didn't come out of nowhere it was brought upon by overly enthusiastic Thor fans, let's put it that way.
    Yeah, buuttt....you'll find that even characters like Superman have lots of instances where they "forget" to use their super speed, when clearly that is part of their power set. Superman has been tagged by slow bricks like Titus, Mongul and Darkseid routinely. That alone, at least for me, doesn't somehow invalidate the fact that Superman has super speed.

    With that said i would like to see Thor get an amp maybe in speed, maybe in some other way that's PERMANENT, this crap of him getting the Odin Force or power cosmic literally cheapens every accomplishment he has for me, i hate outside amps that last a few issues.
    For sure. Thor, a god of thunder and lightning, should have a measure of speed beyond peak human. I'm guessing the Odin force will be Thor's to keep as long as Odin stays dead?


    Which is why i am not too pleased with current cosmic Thor(although in retrospect i do understand given the threat they are facing), but maybe instead of giving him all this, Cates could have presented a way for Thor to lets say access "lightning mode" where he encases his whole body in lightning and he quite literally becomes lightning fast in reflexes and combat in general.

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    That way he doesn't have access to this kind of speed 100% of the time which is why you can still have him brawl it out with bricks or slower characters like that but when he fights Surfer or some other herald or speedsters you can have him access this mode and legit keep up with them.
    Eh, I wouldn't mind a more permanent solution to his speed, but that's just me.

    It's strange to me that it's a theme for Superman to get a completely new power every decade or so(last one was solar flare), for Hulk to get an amp that permanently boosted his strength and now has immortality(which is confirmed to be permanent part of him since the very beginning, he got the ability to absorb gamma from others, his regeneration is boosted, he can smell lies, etc...) but Thor has only regressed in terms of abilities since his classic days. It's time for a writer to step up the plate, he is a god he has as much if not more excuse to showcase new abilities over other powerhouses.
    Agreed completely. Eh, I've said it before: Superman = respect from DC writer's. Thor = butt load of disrespect from most writers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cronus View Post
    No arguments here. Superman is definitely faster, by leagues. But Thor as he was originally presented, was originally written in a manner that supports the notion of super speed. There were actually feats from way back when that suggest Thor had super speed, although not on the level of Superman. Sadly, those types of feats for Thor have gone the way of the dinosaur.
    Yea i remember that stuff, in early days it was promoted that Thor could move faster than the naked eye could even see, but like with many, MANY other powers Thor used to have in classic days stuff like that got forgotten in more modern times.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cronus View Post
    Yeah, buuttt....you'll find that even characters like Superman have lots of instances where they "forget" to use their super speed, when clearly that is part of their power set. Superman has been tagged by slow bricks like Titus, Mongul and Darkseid routinely. That alone, at least for me, doesn't somehow invalidate the fact that Superman has super speed.
    Oh absolutely it's one of the things Supermans fanbase likes to ignore, i actually like the recent explanation of it in current Superman run which is that it takes effort and concentration for Superman to speed himself up to those speeds and it's not something he can just do willy nilly or as some others believe it's not something he is limiting/holding himself back with, since there are people who think Superman needs to actually slow himself down consciously to the levels of others, when it's the other way around.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cronus View Post
    For sure. Thor, a god of thunder and lightning, should have a measure of speed beyond peak human. I'm guessing the Odin force will be Thor's to keep as long as Odin stays dead?
    Odin is currently alive, he just gave the title of All Father to Thor now and Cates confirmed in an interview that he gave him the Odin Force too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cronus View Post
    Agreed completely. Eh, I've said it before: Superman = respect from DC writer's. Thor = butt load of disrespect from most writers.
    Eh it's not that simple, both characters get their respect and disrespect, a lot of Marvel fans don't read Superman stuff but i can tell you Superman has had it very, VERY rough since Rebirth started he has had embarrassing stuff like getting run over by a steamroller, struggling to stop an elephant, getting beat up by dinosaurs, getting KO'd by Batman whistling in his ears, getting beat up by Enchantress using H2H, getting almost killed by Killer Frost, getting knocked out by Supergirl slamming him into a bridge, unable to stop a turtle the size of a car from falling from the sky, struggling to lift the JL space station together with Diana and many, many other things that are just downright embarrassing to his character. Just how there has been a Slowdinson meme in the past, for a good year or two since Rebirth started there was also a meme of Mid-tier Superman going around because of stuff like this. While Thors biggest problem was Jason Aaron in recent times, Supermans biggest problem is that he appears in like 5-6 books each month all written by different people that treat him differently and have different views about his power levels, this in turn gives the character a ton of inconsistency and even downright bad and lazy writing.

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