Originally Posted by
Intothevoid
I wouldn't say he can't be beaten in combat, it's just that it's very difficult to do so in a straight up brawl but less difficult once more hax gets involved.
There are plenty of anti-heroes in comics that can be beaten by just about anyone, the reason Hulk is different is not because his status as an anti-hero would be shaken but he was made that way by design, he was one of the strongest beings in Marvel back in the day, hell there is even a writer/editor note from Marvel where they openly admit when it comes to raw physical strength Hulk has more of it than characters like Juggernaut, Ego, Destroyer, Uatu, etc... Such raw physical power coupled with a being whose sole instinct is to rage is very hard to contain.
Honestly after reading Hulk for so long i still don't get where this "PIS" some people talk about comes from, CIS i would agree with although that's kinda natural, characters make bad decision in comics as in real life all the time, so it's not unusual to me when i see someone like Doctor Strange opting not to just BFR Hulk to another dimension when he could so do so easily, but when it comes to PIS i am just not seeing it. Apart from Hulks broken strength, he is downright unkillable, even before this Immortal Hulk retcon, his healing factor was among the best in Marvel, his resistance to things is also probably better than any character on his level, from heat to cold to molecular/atomic manipulation to soul manipulation to even time and reality warping which verges on being downright stupid, although Jim Starlin did say it best that the most dangerous thing about Hulk is just how STUPID his strength can get, where he does stupid things like punch through time.
I just think people are disposed to look down on "brick" type characters, despite there being very powerful bricks out there that could beat whole teams of complex superheroes like Juggernaut, Doomsday, Mangog, Shaggy, etc...
I think once people start to view Hulk the same way writers in comics do, as an unstoppable force of nature, everything becomes much easier to understand, it's not PIS, it's how the character was designed to be from the get go. Hulks been fighting the Avengers and other teams of heroes for decades now, it's actually fairly consistent for the character and consistency is the opposite of PIS.
Anyway enough about Hulk, this is a Thor thread, one thing i do agree is that it seems everyone else except for Cates ignores that Thor has the OF now, well Aaron doesn't really ignore it but he writes Thor so poorly you would think he either doesn't understand the OF or thinks very lowly of it.