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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainMar-Vell92 of the Kree View Post
    Aaron has a hate boner for us Thor fans.

    Seriously, that chick has become worse than Greg Pak's Hulk and Modern Carol Danvers.

    And then people claim that Starlin's Thanos is an invincible pet.
    The existence of one mary sue does not prelude another

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    Quote Originally Posted by stormphoenix View Post
    Exactly.

    Now about Carol Danvers? spoilers:
    Dude When I saw her Summon Mjolnir I was about to call BULLSHIT. I am a fan of Carol and I do like Thor(even tho i'm not all that knowledgeable about him) I was about drop Captain Marvel all together.
    end of spoilers
    A part of me knew the writer couldn't resist it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    A part of me knew the writer couldn't resist it.
    I think the writer is TRYING to make Carol Danvers this REALLY OP person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stormphoenix View Post
    I think the writer is TRYING to make Carol Danvers this REALLY OP person.
    I'll give you the fights, but this issue was just her relying and uniting the minds and power of all the avengers.
    When she loses it, she loses all of it too. She can't be "really OP" if that feat came explicitly from some external source.
    She's not "really worthy". It was thor's heart inside her.

    The whole thing was more about her dealing with all their conflicting minds and uniting them against a common enemy relying on their heroism and that's how she described it too. Getting the full range of human experience in one dose, rather than a power thing. She's simply the vessel for the avengers to unite and beat the bad guy through while looking like some body horror monstrosity.

    it isn't even like doom, where he uses his own ingenuity to steal the beyonders powers and become omnipotent

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cool Thatguy View Post
    The existence of one mary sue does not prelude another
    I've already explained why Thanos Is not a Mary Sue.
    I think an easy way to look at Thanos stories is that anything written by Jim Starlin, Ron Marz and Keith Giffen is the real Thanos while anything written by other authors should be dismissed as a Thanosi clone.

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    I must be an anomaly. I’ve been reading Thor since Simonson, and have everything after the Thomas run, and I like Aaron’s Thor, and the evolution of Jane under his hand.

    Anyway, I can’t believe nobody has thought to explore Odin’s brothers families. You’d think with Asgard being in such disarray, it’d be perfect time to see some possible challengers to the throne. Especially with Thor’s turn as Galactus’ herald.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainMar-Vell92 of the Kree View Post
    I've already explained why Thanos Is not a Mary Sue.
    Thanos is an unbalanced character, designed so by his creator, to be made to look better at the expense of established characters.

    Whatever you want to call it, that's what he is. And Thor has been used as Thanos' stepping board more than once

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cool Thatguy View Post
    Thanos is an unbalanced character, designed so by his creator, to be made to look better at the expense of established characters.

    Whatever you want to call it, that's what he is. And Thor has been used as Thanos' stepping board more than once
    Thanos is supposed to be a cosmic and mystical character and an hard opponent to beat. I have no issue with him holding his ground against powerful heroes and villains unless they have a major anp.


    The real issue is that Starlin's Thanos Is a more intelligent and multilayered character compared to the thuggish idiot who jumps in front of a reality warper with no plan and says something moronic. That's my main gripe with non-starlin Thanos, not his powers. Would you like if your favorite grey villain gets reduced to a dimwitted brute and saturday morning cartoon villain? You made a valid point about Starlin's protective nature of Thanos and Warlock and some ego in his more recent stuff. But you also need to understand where i (and Thanos fans) an coming from. Thanos is supposed to be a smart scientist with a particular voice.
    Last edited by CaptainMar-Vell92 of the Kree; 03-19-2020 at 04:17 AM.
    I think an easy way to look at Thanos stories is that anything written by Jim Starlin, Ron Marz and Keith Giffen is the real Thanos while anything written by other authors should be dismissed as a Thanosi clone.

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    Talking Happy Thor's Day!

    Thor #233 Mar 1975
    "Midgard Aflame!"
    Loki transports himself to Asgard. With Odin still missing
    the God of Mischief quickly vanquishes the Vizier.
    Outside of Avengers Mansion,

    Thor rescues a small child from an oncoming truck.

    He decides to gather the Avengers to help him battle Loki and his oncoming army
    but when he goes back to Avengers Mansion, he finds it encased in a force field.
    Similarly, all of the superheroes around the country,
    as well as the Baxter Building, are encased in smaller force fields.
    Later, Thor is summoned to the Pentagon where
    he and the Army are on alert to repel Loki's forces.

    Script by Gerry Conway, pencils by John Buscema, inks by Chic Stone

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    Quote Originally Posted by 616MarvelYear is LeapYear View Post
    Thor #233 Mar 1975
    "Midgard Aflame!"
    Loki transports himself to Asgard. With Odin still missing
    the God of Mischief quickly vanquishes the Vizier.
    Outside of Avengers Mansion,

    Thor rescues a small child from an oncoming truck.

    He decides to gather the Avengers to help him battle Loki and his oncoming army
    but when he goes back to Avengers Mansion, he finds it encased in a force field.
    Similarly, all of the superheroes around the country,
    as well as the Baxter Building, are encased in smaller force fields.
    Later, Thor is summoned to the Pentagon where
    he and the Army are on alert to repel Loki's forces.

    Script by Gerry Conway, pencils by John Buscema, inks by Chic Stone
    The first few scans: Yu Yu Hakusho - You are doing it wrong.
    I think an easy way to look at Thanos stories is that anything written by Jim Starlin, Ron Marz and Keith Giffen is the real Thanos while anything written by other authors should be dismissed as a Thanosi clone.

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    RAM V (W) • PASQUAL FERRY (A/C)
    VARIANT COVER BY ED MCGUINNESS
    THE GOD OF THUNDER MEETS HIS MATCH!
    Aliens are invading Midgard, longtime Asgardian ally and Agent of Wakanda Roz Solomon has gone missing, and Gaea, Thor’s mother and guardian of the Earth, is dying. Thor, the king of Asgard and the god of the storm, has one singular duty: Save. Everyone. So who is this new god standing in his way — and what does he know about Thor’s birthright?!
    this honestly gives me retcon vibes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GodThor View Post
    this honestly gives me retcon vibes.
    Your Vibes are right. It most likely is.....

    Always trust ya Nuggets you never go wrong. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by stormphoenix View Post
    Your Vibes are right. It most likely is.....

    Always trust ya Nuggets you never go wrong. :-)
    LoL imagine if they tie in that Odin x Phoenix stuff and Thor is their son.

    they still have to wrap up that romance LFMAO.

    I'll kill myself

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    Quote Originally Posted by GodThor View Post
    LoL imagine if they tie in that Odin x Phoenix stuff and Thor is their son.

    they still have to wrap up that romance LFMAO.

    I'll kill myself
    It's probably gonna be some other sibling that's half mutant and half asgardian that also has a Phoenix essence

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    Quote Originally Posted by HipHopAvenger View Post
    It's probably gonna be some other sibling that's half mutant and half asgardian that also has a Phoenix essence
    Didn't I say don't speak that Blasphemy here??? Mutant Asgardian Phoenix Host. Boy you must be crazy.

    I will NOT have that here.

    Take It BACK

    Quote Originally Posted by GodThor View Post
    LoL imagine if they tie in that Odin x Phoenix stuff and Thor is their son.

    they still have to wrap up that romance LFMAO.

    I'll kill myself
    Don't you DARE speak that BLASPHEMY!!!!!!!

    Odin + Phoenix?! NO!!! I'm sick of that DAMN Fire Chicken ruining things. I will not have it.

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