Kon-El: Superboy Appreciation 2020

[SuperX]

Considering that Lex has had more to do with Conner's existence, I see nothing wrong with him looking more like Lex when everything else is still Clark.

He was created to be a exact copy "lookwise" for superman.

Eyes and maybe a evil looking smile would be cool reminders of his other daddy

[Superlad93]

That's true of his first origin, yes. But I don't think that's at all required to apply to him with his combo DNA origin.

There was never going to be an attempt by Lex to pass Conner off as Superman reborn, and 50% of the DNA world provide just enough of a resemblance to evoke Clark's look. So the identical face idea seems really unnecessary.

I honestly think it's kind of powerful to have Conner have a resemblance to Lex, but to decide to do good. Lex has to watch as someone who shares a resemblance to him honor and follow his greatest foe's example. I like it a lot.

[SuperX]

That's true of his first origin, yes. But I don't think that's at all required to apply to him with his combo DNA origin.

There was never going to be an attempt by Lex to pass Conner off as Superman reborn, and 50% of the DNA world provide just enough of a resemblance to evoke Clark's look. So the identical face idea seems really unnecessary.

I honestly think it's kind of powerful to have Conner have a resemblance to Lex, but to decide to do good. Lex has to watch as someone who shares a resemblance to him honor and follow his greatest foe's example. I like it a lot.

To me he has a established facial look,and if you change it to much,you lose the character .Thats why i loved the Reign movies SBs eyes,it was just enough to evoke lex,but us was still easily recognizable as the character he has always been

[Superlad93]

To me he has a established facial look,and if you change it to much,you lose the character .Thats why i loved the Reign movies SBs eyes,it was just enough to evoke lex,but us was still easily recognizable as the character he has always been

In my opinion, he still naturally (in and out of story) looks enough like Clark that the point is still there.

That said, I'd be interested in him changing his look more of his own volition. Out of the three characters who look the most alike across the art right now (Clark, Jon, and Conner) Conner is the character in the most natural position to want a cosmetic change to further stand out. I think this is especially true if the idea is to move him past the "Superboy" identity and onto something related but different. This is why I approve of additions and call backs like the facial hair and fade.

[Sutekh]

In my opinion, he still naturally (in and out of story) looks enough like Clark that the point is still there.

That said, I'd be interested in him changing his look more of his own volition. Out of the three characters who look the most alike across the art right now (Clark, Jon, and Conner) Conner is the character in the most natural position to want a cosmetic change to further stand out. I think this is especially true if the idea is to move him past the "Superboy" identity and onto something related but different. This is why I approve of additions and call backs like the facial hair and fade.

I always felt like Superman had a 'taller' face, while Conner's was a touch wider. Maybe it was the effect of seeing Chris Reeve in the role, as he had a leaner build than, say, Henry Cavill.

A slightly more square face, and the different hair (usually his hair seems blacker, while Superman has that blue tint to it, which I know is an artistic thing and doesn't actually mean he has *blue* hair, but it does make me think that Conner's hair is meant to be darker, maybe less 'glossy' black) could go a long way to help differentiate Conner from Kal and Jon. That and the clothes. Conner can wear T-shirts and jeans, or sometimes tights and a leather jacket, while Superman and Jon seem less inclined to either the T-shirts or the leather jacket. (Ugh, leather jacket over tights. So 90s, but gotta have that nostalgia, I guess, and at least it's not bell bottoms or a zoot suit.)

[SuperX]

In my opinion, he still naturally (in and out of story) looks enough like Clark that the point is still there.

That said, I'd be interested in him changing his look more of his own volition. Out of the three characters who look the most alike across the art right now (Clark, Jon, and Conner) Conner is the character in the most natural position to want a cosmetic change to further stand out. I think this is especially true if the idea is to move him past the "Superboy" identity and onto something related but different. This is why I approve of additions and call backs like the facial hair and fade.

This is how I would love to see kon, and by using different things about different versions of him.

1 face and body of YJ shows SB
2 green eyes
3 S barcode tattoo on shoulder
4 black tshirt with S with black inside
5 black leather jacket with yellow S on the back
6 red fingerless gloves
7 red jeans
8 black combat boots


Powers

1 YJ shows powers(strength, speed, durability, speed, infra red vision, super hearing, leaps
2 kesel original TTK
3 new 52 TK senses (sense micro vibrations and insta touch scan)
4 heat vision
5 TTK has no weakness to gas or energy attacks
6 TTK needs focus to be used

[sifighter]

I appreciate the call back to the pre-flashpoint Conner costume...well t-shirt in the most recent issue of Young Justice

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[SuperX]

I appreciate the call back to the pre-flashpoint Conner costume...well t-shirt in the most recent issue of Young Justice

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I like the mixing of Smallville, and the black shirt with his jacket, and hair, it respects all versions of kon, not just one.

[sifighter]

I like the mixing of Smallville, and the black shirt with his jacket, and hair, it respects all versions of kon, not just one.

Yeah honestly I like how this artist draws him, he's muscular but because he is either 16 to 18 (its hard to tell with comic characters) he's clearly a tad slimmer then Clark.

[Masterff]

Yeah honestly I like how this artist draws him, he's muscular but because he is either 16 to 18 (its hard to tell with comic characters) he's clearly a tad slimmer then Clark.

I have to say that I really HATE it...

I LOVE

The Teen Titans Version (Graduation Day) etc.

Francis Manapul Superboy (if we are talking about face and hairs than his Conner was the best one!)
I LOVED his way of drawing Conners Face and the spiked up hairs.

Rebirth Conner is way to skinny for me, I LOVED the muscular 220 pounds Teen Titans Version with the Francis Manapul Hairs and Face.

[13th Superman]

Yeah honestly I like how this artist draws him, he's muscular but because he is either 16 to 18 (its hard to tell with comic characters) he's clearly a tad slimmer then Clark.

I agree. He's not a full grown man yet. I hate how some artists depict teenagers as smaller adults. This is a nice combination of his 90s and post 2003 look.

[13th Superman]

I'm not ok with him looking like Lex. The furthest I'm willing to go is the eye color. In my mind he should look exactly like a teenage Clark. The goal was to clone Superman. I believe any inheritance from Lex should be subtle like certain personality traits. His ego, his genius, pride, libido, obsessiveness and willingness to do things Superman wouldn't. Imagine a guy who looks like Clark, straight up thinking he's a full on Supes clone on the surface but some of his behaviors and actions are clearly distinct from him. Reminiscent of another figure altogether. I like that mystery.

Best on screen version of the character I'd say is the DCAU Reign of the Superman version. He was the perfect amalgam of various depictions. His personality, the costume, the humor was absolutely perfect.

[Superlad93]

The goal was to clone Superman.

I feel like that stopped being totally true in 2003 when a full half of his DNA became Lex's. This isn't the case in something like Young Justice where Conner is a clone with damaged aspects of his DNA being filled in by Lex's. This is a 50/50 split, and any strong traits from Superman are the result of strong genetics, but 50% is still 50% and not 100%.

I think in 2003 it's more accurate to say that Lex's goal was to create a weapon and heir that used Superman's DNA (thus his power). Just off the man's ego alone, I can believe that he'd do more than *just* settle for what is basically a functioning Bizarro, and that when you looked at his creation he'd want you to see the ever so slight resemblance of him looking back at you intruding upon perfection. Like doing his take on The Sistine Chapel.

[Sutekh]

Francis Manapul Superboy (if we are talking about face and hairs than his Conner was the best one!)
I LOVED his way of drawing Conners Face and the spiked up hairs.

Agreed. He was 'the Kid,' in like the 90s.

But he's grown up now. Jon can be 'the Kid.' (or, at least, the younger teen) I don't need to see Conner reverted back to a skinny kid over and over, just as I have no interest in seeing Nightwing lose 100 lbs and a foot of height and go back to dressing in his old Robin getup.

I enjoyed his earlier adventures, particularly in Hawaii and PADs run on Young Justice, but that's long past, and I'm glad the Young Justice cartoon uses the more adult version of Conner.

[13th Superman]

I feel like that stopped being totally true in 2003 when a full half of his DNA became Lex's. This isn't the case in something like Young Justice where Conner is a clone with damaged aspects of his DNA being filled in by Lex's. This is a 50/50 split, and any strong traits from Superman are the result of strong genetics, but 50% is still 50% and not 100%.

I think in 2003 it's more accurate to say that Lex's goal was to create a weapon and heir that used Superman's DNA (thus his power). Just off the man's ego alone, I can believe that he'd do more than *just* settle for what is basically a functioning Bizarro, and that when you looked at his creation he'd want you to see the ever so slight resemblance of him looking back at you intruding upon perfection. Like doing his take on The Sistine Chapel.

I would have to disagree there. Even if the make up is 50 50, its not like how regular children are conceived. He was designed to be like Superman. Looks, powers, and all. The human dna was to act as a stabilizer and was completely altered. People just hear 50 50 and automatically assume he's a fusion of the two in his appearance. What I find strange is that Jon assumed Conner could have been an alternate him. I don't know if that was a nod to new 52 Kon but going from that to Lex and Clark having a baby has me confused on what they think Conner looks like.