I get the concern about mixing mythology but I would say it's fair game within reason. considering the way myths transmit, there are plenty that overlap across national borders, especially due to the nature of how Africa's borders were made. So when we're working with made up nations I think it's fair to pull from various cultural iconographies because there are a wide breadth of African mythology that never gets to be showcased in these kinds of stories like the Impundulu, like the Idiok, Sky King Eri, Komosu, the Epic of Mansa Sundiata, etc.; we never see any push back when they mix in European or Judeo-Christian mythology in every and anything. the issue I have is when they pull from the same small handful of myths (Anansi, Orishas, Egypt) and unless it's Egypt they are always done extremely superficially. if they focus on a region (Southern Africa, Western sub-saharan Africa, etc.) they should pull from all that region has to offer, so long as they stick to some kind of internal consistency. Black Panther the movie does a pretty good job with conhesive world building using african iconography, and Black Leopard, Red Wolf by Marlon James does a great job of it too.
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Considering Vixen was planned to have her own comic way back near her first introduction before than plans fell, I'm surprised she hasn't been pushed more.
I’ve always felt Vixen and animal man mimicking magical creatures starts to break the characters in some fundamental ways. Because you start to ask questions like “can they turn into aliens too? How about animal looking gods?” And pretty soon you’ve turned a character with a pretty unique and versatile move set into a catch all character that can do anything, and are more difficult to write. Sometimes limits are good.
I don't have an issue with mixing and matching aspects of African mythology unless it becomes lazy or isn't depicted well. The recent BP run by Coates is an example of how pulling random elements of African religions and hamfisting them together makes things needlessly complicated and shallow. How do Wakandans, a Nilotic people in East Africa, have a South African rain goddess named Mujaji within a pantheon called the Orisha, which hail from West Africa? And it's even worse in that franchise because Wakandans aren't supposed to have any connections to the rest of Africa until T'Challa opens the kingdom in the 21st century.
It's weird and reductive because while I get the general pan-African sentiment behind representing everyone's respective folklore, you don't want to make all African cultures look interchangeable. And I think there needs to be extra sensitivity because for many people these are very real beings and concepts that can't just be haphazardly thrown together or boiled down to their most superficial elements. What I'd like to see happen more often is that folklore is used regionally. If Vixen's from Southern Africa have her draw from that lore primarily. There's plenty of depth to Zulu mythology alone that can build an entire franchise, it's a bit weird to just roll in some Nubian gods just because they're from the same continent. I mean, I'm fine with anything as long as the story is strong enough and there's an in-universe explanation but c'mon, not every African hero needs to deal with gods from the other side of the continent.
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The Black Panther movie did many things better than the comics, its fusion of the various Wakandan tribes and real-life African cultures being one of them. I was specifically speaking on the recent Black Panther books by Ta-Nehisi Coates, which is blatantly all over the place with its terminology and mythology.
On the topic of Vixen having a celebrity type villain, wouldn't Jezebel Jet be a good candidate?
She's like a foil for Vixen. Both are African models but one grew up in a more humble household and chose to be a hero while the other lived a luxurious life and chose a life of crime
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They are most definitely bad characters, Good characters are easy to set up and easy to go different directions bad characters need mountains of work and nearly perfect execution to work. I am using this character as example of bad character(she isn't) but she is an example of how much work it takes for a characters to made good. The example is Pyslocke and she is perfect example because it is obvious to see how different character had to be change to make the character good. In fact Psylocke shows that they just made a different character not "fix" a character. Fiction allows writers to make character into a whole different person. If you have to make a character into basically new character the character was bad.