Black Panther Appreciation 2020

[Cville]

Bro, Ororo's now 100% on that Krakoa Mutant supremacist Gestapo isht currently ruling the X-Verse.

Meanwhile, Coates is busy selling wolf tickets in the BP solo.

Never heard of "wolf tickets", is that like selling "snake oil"?

[Mr MajestiK]

The US is a republic, not a true democracy. We don't decide everything... we elect the pwople we feel are best able to make those decisions for us. There are people in government who do address the day to day concerns of the average citizen... but its not the president. They deal largely with the bigger picture.

If presidents sat around listening to every citizen with a grioe, they would literally do nothing but sit around listening to citizens with a gripe. There are people for that waaay down on the ladder.

You're the one who's always going on and on about how democracy is better than the system of monarchy that's been part of the mythos from day one.

Now all of a sudden, the goal posts are being moved as usual.

[Mr MajestiK]

Never heard of "wolf tickets", is that like selling "snake oil"?

Most definitely. Lol!

[XPac]

That book had no context. It just show Nakia was incompetent.

Was Nakia in WoW?

As far as context, it went all the way to AvX, showing the growing tension between Tchalla and the Dora's.

He made a lot of decisions which a lot of Wakandans understandably might not agree with (even though I'd pretty much say he did the right thing across the board). It was a good way if connecting the dots from them abandoning him in Time Runs Out to their rebellion

[Mr MajestiK]

It amazes me that Wakanda didn't have these issues until Coates decided to come along and create a third world Wakandan state with dictators and all and some people act like this was Wakanda all along. Instead of an African nation leading and inspiring the rest of the world, we get a third world Wakanda who can't even defend itself against treehouse rape camps because everybody is stupid.

But what's even crazier is that unlike Coates who remains a wilfully ignorant Johnny come lately, there are some posting in this thread who know better.

They're spouting the same ideological tap dance.

[Cville]

Was Nakia in WoW?

As far as context, it went all the way to AvX, showing the growing tension between Tchalla and the Dora's.

He made a lot of decisions which a lot of Wakandans understandably might not agree with (even though I'd pretty much say he did the right thing across the board). It was a good way if connecting the dots from them abandoning him in Time Runs Out to their rebellion

I mean Anika? The one who got the death sentence. lol

[Mr MajestiK]

Sure. But the point is they lost respect for Tchalla. Tough to be ride and die after that. And that respect apparently didn't return with him regaining rhe crown, as they continued to show frustration wirh him leading into their exodus. The order to execute the MA was the straw that broke the camels.

And yet, Ezyo's point remains based on fact as opposed to personal opinion.

[Mr MajestiK]

Was Nakia in WoW?

As far as context, it went all the way to AvX, showing the growing tension between Tchalla and the Dora's.

He made a lot of decisions which a lot of Wakandans understandably might not agree with (even though I'd pretty much say he did the right thing across the board). It was a good way if connecting the dots from them abandoning him in Time Runs Out to their rebellion

Except that niggling fact that Hickman left T'Challa and Wakanda on an upwardly positive trajectory at Secret Wars II's conclusion with nary a rape camp or rebellion in evidence anywhere.

[XPac]

I mean Anika? The one who got the death sentence. lol

She was incompetent in the way Punisher is incompetent. It's a complete failure of proper due process ... but it gets the job done.

[DigiCom]

Is that Gold Diggers?

Grave Diggers?

It is indeed Fred Perry's Gold Digger, which has been published (more-or-less) continuously under his pen since 1991. The latest issue was #270.

It's probably one of the most insanely complicated universes out there... his editor used to call it a "kudzu plot".

Fred's up there with Dave Sim, Erik Larsen, Stan Sakai, and the team of Mark Evanier & Sergio Aragones... but practically nobody has heard of him.

[Marvell2100]

Except that niggling fact that Hickman left T'Challa and Wakanda on an upwardly positive trajectory at Secret Wars II's conclusion with nary a rape camp or rebellion in evidence anywhere.

The same thing we saw in Ewings' Ultimates.

[Marvell2100]

It is indeed Fred Perry's Gold Digger, which has been published (more-or-less) continuously under his pen since 1991. The latest issue was #270.

It's probably one of the most insanely complicated universes out there... his editor used to call it a "kudzu plot".

Fred's up there with Dave Sim, Erik Larsen, Stan Sakai, and the team of Mark Evanier & Sergio Aragones... but practically nobody has heard of him.

Very cool, that's very interesting. Thank you for bringing this up.

[Cville]

Very cool, that's very interesting. Thank you for bringing this up.

Do you still read Nobel? I thought the writing went down hill about seven or eight issues in and haven't been keeping up. I know they went on hiatus trying to find a new artist.

[Ezyo1000]

The Doras did walk away from Tchalla once already in Time Runs Out. So they are ride and die only up to a point. If push came to shove, they ended up being ride and die each other.

The main book doesn't cover the rest of the DMs perspective to any great detail. WOW doesgive us some of the build up to it though. We see the Doras frustration with the crown building and things slipping through the cracks, and we see the Doras decidingto take things into their own hands and deal with those issues while Tchalla is occupied with other (admittely more important) things. That story was the background setting the table for rebellion. The execution order of the MA was the straw which broke the camels back.

Why did they join forces with terrorists? Because those terrorists saved their butts. They were losing that fight with the HZ. At the time, it made sense. Once it stooped making sense, Tetu and conpany were on their own.

You know what WOW does? It completely confirms Coates whole deal with the MA rebelling is bullisht. Why? Because THEY kept information hidden from the Royal family and decided to try and fix it on their own. To bad effects. Then aneka tried to act high and mighty about it, ontop of that, there were holes, very obvious glaring holes. Fiest the men were being banished for speaking up, yet none of then went to the golden city? They just wandered around aimlessly? Then one Wakandan girl runs right into the dm facility with ease? Also the dm walked away from T'Challa on tro however thry were still loyal to the throne.

And yes they joined with Tetu because he saved them, BUT they didn't leave when they knew that he was killing Wakandans, no they left when his men started raping women and even then it wasn't until Shuri threaten them. Abd they still hid and didn't defend Wakanda. So no they weren't in thw right, they the whole the monarch doesn't care was bullisht because they didn't report it. And everything was still very much unexplained

[Mr MajestiK]

The same thing we saw in Ewings' Ultimates.

Ewing and everyone else got Jonathan Hickman's Wakandan memo at Secret War II's ending except Ta Nehisi Coates apparently.