Black Panther Appreciation 2020

[Cville]

But we are talking about Priest version, it was plenty functional. And there's been plenty of times we have scene him in ceremonial garb. Its like the images I posted up above. Plus, he can take the mask up for his wedding. It would of made it just appeared more like he was showing he cares to do so. For the flak I give McGregor about his torture porn. His showings of T'Challa and Monica's relationship is legit good and that is how I expect T'Challa acts around the women he cares about

He cared more about the traditions. Storm asked if he give it all up for her. He didn't answer. Lol.

So whatever the ceremonial practice was, the would take presitant. Hes like Worf. The traditions must be observed. Lol.

[VantaBlack]

You are not wrong, the situation feels like watching an attempt at a coup d'état. Concerning making their voice heard, they should focus their attention on Kevin Feige, Nate Moore (executive producer on Black Panther) and Sarah Halley Finn (the casting director on many MCU movies and also the one that saw Chadwick Boseman's potential as T'Challa: https://www.indulgexpress.com/entert...ack-27776.html).

Sharks have been circling for a while now. I opened a twitter and a facebook about the same time I registered this account here on CBR. And man oh man it looks bad, the has certainly been an upward spike in the push to bin T'Challa the character in the wake of Chadwick Boseman's unfortunate passing. As toxic as it gets, we do need to throw in our voices in support of this great character in the direction of the higher ups

[VantaBlack]

Sprinkle in there Coates had T'Challa be too stupid to trust achebe of the empire because the version he knew was a Villain from his timeline.. yet believed N'Jadaka just fine even though the N'Jadaka he knows is also a Villain and then turns out that N'Jadaka was tricking him the whole time!



Like Coates was so lazy with his story thst he couldn't even be bothered to come up with good reasons for why T'Challa acted the way he did and instead just doubled down on his focus of shitting on T'Challa. And also his whole deal with the MA was stupid for multiple reasons because they are just as at fault, if not more at fault with the issues plaguing Wakanda in the first season because they knew about the chieftains yet decided willingly to not report it up the chain, then are crying foul when they are facing charges for their actions.

All of his stories are half-baked ideas that maybe could of worked if they were 6 issues a piece instead of 12/24 but Coates just is a failure of a comic writer and has no business writing anything related to T'Challa and his mythos, especially since he had zero intentions of doing anything positive or uplifting to the mythos. The only ones who have benefited have been Storm and Eden.. two characters who aren't even apart of or from the mythos

No doubt the MA were at fault. And Coates is a bad BP writer, no question. In my post I presented the MA in a light I personally got from reading it as what Coates intended us as readers to view them as (casuals and borderline unfans surely drew to those conclusions). But of course the vigilant and BS-proofed BP fans saw the stupidity of it all as you stated above. So yeah, T'Challa is better off without him

[Ezyo1000]

He cared more about the traditions. Storm asked if he give it all up for her. He didn't answer. Lol.

So whatever the ceremonial practice was, the would take presitant. Hes like Worf. The traditions must be observed. Lol.

I'm nor saying he abandoned his stuff for Storm, but rather I wish he sported Priests habit lol

[Ezyo1000]

No doubt the MA were at fault. And Coates is a bad BP writer, no question. In my post I presented the MA in a light I personally got from reading it as what Coates intended us as readers to view them as (casuals and borderline unfans surely drew to those conclusions). But of course the vigilant and BS-proofed BP fans saw the stupidity of it all as you stated above. So yeah, T'Challa is better off without him

One good about the BP fans here, we ain't on that BS lol. We give credit where credit is due (entry of is have commented on the few things Coates did right albeit seldomly) and no one was above criticism. All the scribes were equally criticized for what they did or didn't do
Priest Hudlin liss, RJ.. all of them are judged by their actions and not by some hive mind we decided who we do and don't like(because there are some here who likes like to claim BP fans just hate Coates and would hate anything he did whether it was what we wanted to see or not) do welcome to the crew my brother

[Cville]

I'm nor saying he abandoned his stuff for Storm, but rather I wish he sported Priests habit lol

I doubled checked. He is wearing the Preist version. He has the gold necklace and gold arm bands. The gold hip guards arnt there, but I think those are for holding blades.

Edit. The gold belt is there too. Lol

[VantaBlack]

He cared more about the traditions. Storm asked if he give it all up for her. He didn't answer. Lol.

So whatever the ceremonial practice was, the would take presitant. Hes like Worf. The traditions must be observed. Lol.

Lol yeah, clearly the king is a man of his time. Observe the damn tradition at all cost! lol. Another garb that would've looked super cool without breaking from tradition though would have been his father's habit. Like that white Mufasa mane on his shoulders, mask off... Damn! And It would've been a once off thing used exclusively on the day for sentimental reasons then shelved. A WOW moment right there lol. But on the real, in hindsight the man should've just strode up to the altar in his Vibranium briefs & socks and it'd still be appropriate and fine by me given what we were slapped with in AvX and everything after regarding them as a couple. beep!!

[XPac]

I'm nor saying he abandoned his stuff for Storm, but rather I wish he sported Priests habit lol

I think he was wearing Priests costume... or at least a variation which was pretty close.

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[VantaBlack]

One good about the BP fans here, we ain't on that BS lol. We give credit where credit is due (entry of is have commented on the few things Coates did right albeit seldomly) and no one was above criticism. All the scribes were equally criticized for what they did or didn't do
Priest Hudlin liss, RJ.. all of them are judged by their actions and not by some hive mind we decided who we do and don't like(because there are some here who likes like to claim BP fans just hate Coates and would hate anything he did whether it was what we wanted to see or not) do welcome to the crew my brother

A big thank you brother. And yeah. I mean the criticism right this very moment is on Hudlin's fashion sense having T'Challa attending his wedding in a habit still dripping with blood from Mephisto's heart lol. Everyone is liable to get it here I've seen, so I'm not worried.

[VantaBlack]

I doubled checked. He is wearing the Preist version. He has the gold necklace and gold arm bands. The gold hip guards arnt there, but I think those are for holding blades.

Edit. The gold belt is there too. Lol

Just did a little google to refresh my memory as well, and yes it does look Preist-esque. but still the mask is decidedly Hudlin with those eye cut outs tho lol I am not moved!

[XPac]

Just did a little google to refresh my memory as well, and yes it does look Preist-esque. but still the mask is decidedly Hudlin with those eye cut outs tho lol I am not moved!

I always disliked the mask which showed his eyes. It MIGHT have been intentional to show people that he's black (some people might not know) ... but I thought it made the costume just seem like cloth. And to me at least it just didn't look as cool.

[Marvell2100]

Yep, same story. Although the framing of it is a bit different (no doubt to ensure T'Challa never hit the Doras' level of "heroism"). While the Doras/Midnight Angels were angled to be these gallant black women (that's important) who rose up in the face of insurmountable odds. Taking on the cold and uncaring monarch (black man) with it's unfair system and laws designed [by said black men] to exploit and keep them down. Needless to say, T'Challa looks bad. Now you turn to T'Challa's galactic empire arc and he is angled as a reluctant king and an uninspired hero who only wish to be a lab rat above all else. Nonetheless he does spawn the galactic empire (grandest of evil the wakandans has ever committed as seen by the atrocities nuKillmonger and them did) as Shuri told him to his face. And he confesses to Storm (remember that long ass convo some time after his return) that he knew the empire was built on slavery basically and not only was he pessimistic about it, but went on to become its "champion" (You can guess what that may entail -being a champion of slavers). Fighting on its side rather than take the side of the oppressed because the oppressors in this case were "his own people"(Wakandans) as they made sure to harp on that point. Coates had him use words like "confronted with that crime I looked away" "indulging on a dream" in the face of all of this, by the way. It took them stabbing him in the back and losing his memories for him to do anything about it. Even then the catalyst for him doing anything heroic was Storm (those visions that told him to come home). Very little if not none of that urgency was on his own terms. Unlike the Doras who saw something that was not "right" and took it upon themselves to do something about it, turning to vigilantism. Such was their king's ineptitude to protect his people (women) and safe guard his nation. Coates had him fail on both counts and firmly in the wrong side of what is "right" or "just". But like the MA I guess, he now stand a chance at taking the land he don't deserve after of course Shuri, Storm and Eden save the day. Really hope those last books never see the light of day

You're quite right. T'Challa was not portrayed nearly as heroic in his struggles against the Galactic Empire as the Doras were against the "tyranny" of a king where females were "only there to breed" under his rule.

Inept at home and inept in space. And I agree with not even finishing the run. Just let it go away.

[VantaBlack]

I always disliked the mask which showed his eyes. It MIGHT have been intentional to show people that he's black (some people might not know) ... but I thought it made the costume just seem like cloth. And to me at least it just didn't look as cool.

Yep, I didn't care for the eyes showing either. Kinda looked like those classic balaclava masks bank robbers wear in movies but without the mouth opening lol
edit: sorry haven't figured out how to post pictures here. So no visual aid for context since the are so many variations

[XPac]

Yep, I didn't care for the eyes showing either. Kinda looked like those classic balaclava masks bank robbers wear in movies but without the mouth opening lol
edit: sorry haven't figured out how to post pictures here. So no visual aid for context since the are so many variations

Wow... I never thought about it, but you're right. It does sort of give a bank robber vibe.

I almost wonder if it has to do with Jrjr. drawing on Hudlins run story arc. He's used to drawing bank robbers from his time on Daredevil and Spider-Man.

[Ezyo1000]

Yep, I didn't care for the eyes showing either. Kinda looked like those classic balaclava masks bank robbers wear in movies but without the mouth opening lol
edit: sorry haven't figured out how to post pictures here. So no visual aid for context since the are so many variations

To do images do [ IMG ] whatever the image is [/ IMG ] and just take out the spaces. But I agree, he could of went maskless at least. I prefer the eyes to glow lol