Black Panther Appreciation 2020

[Doombot]

If you were given control of a Black Panther book tomorrow, what would be the five most important changes you would make? They don't even have to be changes, but what would be the first five things you would do to bring the book in line with how you see the Panther and his world?

[DigiCom]

I'd like more than just panel time sure... but my point being I don't think jamming them in a story even if they don't do much and aren't really needed isn't the worst thing in the world. The criticism if anything should be that more should be done with them, not less.

No, the criticism is that "jamming them in a story even if they don't do much and aren't really needed" is taking away panel space that could (and should) be used to tell the bloody story.

[DigiCom]

If you were given control of a Black Panther book tomorrow, what would be the five most important changes you would make? They don't even have to be changes, but what would be the first five things you would do to bring the book in line with how you see the Panther and his world?

In descending order of importance.

1. Focus the book on T'Challa first, his supporting cast second, and Wakanda itself third. The book is not a sandbox for me to play with whatever Marvel characters I like.
2. Realize that people (both black and otherwise) liked the movie for a reason. Make the book accessible to those viewers without being beholden to the movieverse.
3. No Klaw or Killmonger plots. Ever. We need new stories, not retreads of old ones.
4. Wakanda will be treated like a First World nation, not a punching bag for whatever villain needs a push. No successful invasions or disasters.
5. Give the Panther Goddess some teeth again. Maybe use my idea that s/he is tied to the Tiger God.

That'll do for a start.

[XPac]

No, the criticism is that "jamming them in a story even if they don't do much and aren't really needed" is taking away panel space that could (and should) be used to tell the bloody story.

Falcon and the Crew were in like a second, so I don't think it's that huge a loss. You can credibly cite pacing issues with Coates writing, but the fault can't really be layed on using these guys.

[Cville]

If you were given control of a Black Panther book tomorrow, what would be the five most important changes you would make? They don't even have to be changes, but what would be the first five things you would do to bring the book in line with how you see the Panther and his world?

1. First scene is Tchalla standing in front of that looking glass thing from TRO looking at everything that happened in Coatesverse.

2. I'll go with Shuri in the living death while Tchalla goes back through the trials earning the peoples trust back.

3. Twelve issue story killing Doom, Namor, Maximus, and Black Order. They don't have to stay dead.

4. Flush out Shadow Physics more.

5. Bring M'Baku, Killmonger, and Hunter back as allies, but use minor tension between them all for filler plots.

[Redjack]

If you were given control of a Black Panther book tomorrow, what would be the five most important changes you would make? They don't even have to be changes, but what would be the first five things you would do to bring the book in line with how you see the Panther and his world?

1. Fortress Wakanda/Utopia Wakanda
2. No Killmonger. Done.
3. Entirely New Rogues
4. Constant friction between hero duties and king duties.
5. No Storm, ever. New [possibly multiple] love interest[s].

[KingNomarch]

If you were given control of a Black Panther book tomorrow, what would be the five most important changes you would make? They don't even have to be changes, but what would be the first five things you would do to bring the book in line with how you see the Panther and his world?

off the top of my head.

1. Treat the last 3yrs as nonexistent.

2. Make being King of the Dead actually mean something and expand on it's abilities.

3. Priest made T'Challa the smartest man in a room and Liss named him the most dangerous man alive. That'd be the basic characterization I'd go with along with the swagger Hudlin gave him.

4. Bring back Malaika as the love interest and member of the Wakandan spy network from Rise, Hunter as an ally, Sofija and Kasper as White Tiger acolytes something that i dont think thats been mentioned since the original Crew.

5. Settle things with Namor and Doom.

[butterflykyss]

I do think it's nice seeing some of the minority characters who haven't gotten a whole lot of exposure in recent times get used. Not exactly sure how useful some of those characters will be in an intergalactic invasion... but it's nice that they're getting some panel time somewhere.

agreed. it's not like they are necessarily gettin much use elsewhere

[BlkGldBlu]

1. First scene is Tchalla standing in front of that looking glass thing from TRO looking at everything that happened in Coatesverse.

2. I'll go with Shuri in the living death while Tchalla goes back through the trials earning the peoples trust back.

3. Twelve issue story killing Doom, Namor, Maximus, and Black Order. They don't have to stay dead.

4. Flush out Shadow Physics more.

5. Bring M'Baku, Killmonger, and Hunter back as allies, but use minor tension between them all for filler plots.

This.THIS!!! You number 5 is my 3 part arc Called Outsiders.

It deals with The White Wolf and his role in the Panther cult. Needs to answer for his crimes, but Wakanda actually loves him as a Non Royal. Also all former War Dogs or Wakanda charged with War crimes or half breeds who are not accepted in Wakanda seem to follow him and are part of HIS War Dog that does Wakanda work not on behalf of the Crown.

M'Baku and The Gorilla tribe should be fighting for reintegration into Wakanda and more political power. Should cause tension between all Wakanda. But Wakanda may seem ready to bring them back into the fold. More so than Half breeds and outsiders.

Killmonnger should have a small redemption story but of course stay the course, and be the true dictator he is.

Nehezno Father should have been part of T'chaka open boarder to Wakanda program. But due to misturst and the political climate in Wakanda and the fact that Nehezno father disrupted a tribal engagement between two tribes one of Nehezno Mother and some other Wakanda maybe a gorilla cult tribe was using to originally use as integration back into the main tribe. But fell in love with Nehezno Father bring shame to the tribe and jeopardize their integration. The two men are over come with passion ,fight and are willing kill over Nehezno Mother. Nehezno Father win and survive. Wakanda See's this as injustice as an outsider came ,disrespected the culture, and now one of their own is dead. Setting Wakanda open boarder policy further back. Nehezno Mother gives up the Child to the Royal court due to personal shame and role she played in these two men lives.

[Klaue's Mixtape]

Ta-Nehisi Coates

I think to the extent that you see real power changing in this country, you see it in culture rather than politics. This is why people find Black Panther infuriating — it has nothing to do with the content. But you get all of these responses like, “Why do I have to like this? Why is this being rammed down my throat?” I think what’s happened is people who previously did not have power now have power. Shonda Rhimes has actual power to actually affect what you’re going to see on your television.

vox.com/podcasts/2020/2/18/21141296/ta-nehisi-coates-why-were-polarized-ezra-klein-race-racism-demographic-change

[FLEX HECTIC]

1. Black Panther

2. Significant Other/Love Interest (not named Storm)

3. Rogues Gallery

4. Wakanda

5. Period


This of course would all be under a separate editorial office much like the X-men have as well as a few other intellectual property franchises that seem to like to make money on a regular basis!


Also... Anybody on staff would have to have the keen inclination to dare to cosplay as Black Panther (feet pajamas and all) otherwise it all would be a waste of time!


Now go burn some calories with a smile on your face...

[FLEX HECTIC]

Black children dancing for Black Panther comic book sales... Oh wait!

[Ekie]

1. Flash back to Tchalla holding the time gem and start there immediately erasing everything Coats has done as a bad timeline skip caused when doomworld collapsed.

2. An event where Black panther declares war on Doom.
Avenger Heroes try to step in and get squashed by wakanda for being involved in state matters showcasing wakandas full military arsenal.

3. Revert Shuri with heavy emphasis on tech ( give her that mechanical pet panther full if tricks to fight along side)

4. Flesh out a few old villains (killmonger is too popular to stay dead, black swan as a reoccurring Catwoman esk villian alongside Black Dwarf) and introduce new Wakandan grown rivals from various tribes.

5. Flesh out the necropolis, the Techno jungle, and the palace in the Same way the xmen have their environment defined and popularized (x-mansion, danger room ect)

[Ezyo1000]

If you were given control of a Black Panther book tomorrow, what would be the five most important changes you would make? They don't even have to be changes, but what would be the first five things you would do to bring the book in line with how you see the Panther and his world?

I would address the issues in a 6 part story. Each is broken down per issue of how my course correction would go

1. All of Coates story was a lie. The Djalia is a plane of existence that mother resides. Mother is a villain. Her power was oozing into Wakanda and distorting everyone's memory and behavior. No one man, Wakanda being Columbus analogue tchalla acting like an idiot etc. All a lie fabricated by Mother. She is an ancient evil that was sealed away by Bashenga the first Black panther.

2. T'Challa is the first to figure it out and breaks the hold, realizing shes the cause of Wakanda in apparent chaos, and why he was acting like a damn fool. He starts to act, while pretending to still be under her power he starts investigating. He learns that this change started to happen after he restored the 616 and that his behavior and that of everyone else has been altered. The effects being the strongest while in Wakanda. He learns that his "truths" about himself and his doubt are not his own thoughts.

3. Using kotd, he talks to his ancestors to gather the information he needs. He has to complete a trial to prove he is worthy and that he has the power to defeat mother. 5 challenges from 5 different BPs. T'Chaka, the one mouthy BP that T'Challa threatened on coates S2 (one of the very few things Coates did right) Yemandi (shout out to Redjack) that priest looking BP from Hickmans TRO, and finally Bashenga himself. Trials test combat, wisdom/intelligence, spirituality, morality, and his leadership for Wakandas future. It is a brutal trial as he is facing the greatest Black Panthers Wakanda has ever produced. Each time he passes he learns more about mother as they have all dealt with her to some capacity.


4. After passing the trials he learns from Bashenga himself the full truth about mother, how he defeated her, and what kind of devastation she will bring about if released. However, over the centuries mother has grown more powerful than she was when originally sealed and that seal is weakening, the events of TRO has weakened it beyond repair. so T'Challa will have to find a another place to contain her since the djahlia is no longer adequate. He learns that these powers that were granted through "prayer" for Storm, and Shuris ancient memory powers, was a ritual in which Mother was giving her power to Shuri and Storm weakening the djahlia further and bringing her closer to her freedom. At the end she contacts an old threat

5. Mother learns of T'Challa breaking through her power over himself and Wakanda so she reaches out to a foe to take care of Wakanda and release her from her prison. Enter the Black order. T'Challa and Shuri have a rematch with the black order, this time we see the full might of Wakanda, T'Challa kill BD on panel, Shuri kills proxima, and the other living cabal members systematically

The black order gets annihilated by Wakandan military. We see prowlers N'Yami mother ships, crazy Wakandan defense system's, T'Chaka class destroyers, and Bast Roar (both new military tech created by tchalla) etc. All on panel.

6. After the battle mother, using the battle as a distraction and thinking she has won, breaks out of the djahlia and attacks T'Challa, exactly what he wanted her to do, he leads her into the techno jungle hits her with a modified HSH injection that starts infecting her as soon as she enters, and it sends her to bast where she is judged and devoured. Bast, being pleased that T'Challa was able to do what the other BPs were not, hails him as the GOAT Black panther.

In the epilogue, Tetu and Zenzi, having been followers of mother, were able to take some of her power and flee Wakanda, vowing revenge. T'Challa, seeing what's going on in current events in x world and says peace out to storm. Malaika comes back to the scene, and T'Challa sets his focus on dealing with the loose ends from TRO. Namor and Doom

[dkrook]

I would address the issues in a 5 part story. Each is broken down per issue of how my course correction would go

1. All of Coates story was a lie. The Djalia is a plane of existence that mother resides. Mother is a villain. Her power was oozing into Wakanda and distorting everyone's memory and behavior. No one man, Wakanda being Columbus analogue tchalla acting like an idiot etc. All a lie fabricated by Mother. She is an ancient evil that was sealed away by Bashenga the first Black panther.

2. T'Challa is the first to figure it out and breaks the hold, realizing shes the cause of Wakanda in apparent chaos, and why he was acting like a damn fool. He starts to act, while pretending to still be under her power he starts investigating. He learns that this change started to happen after he restored the 616 and that his behavior and that of everyone else has been altered. The effects being the strongest while in Wakanda. He learns that his "truths" about himself and his doubt are not his own thoughts.

3. Using kotd, he talks to his ancestors to gather the information he needs. He has to complete a trial to prove he is worthy and that he has the power to defeat mother. 5 challenges from 5 different BPs. T'Chaka, the one mouthy BP that T'Challa threatened on coates S2 (one of the very few things Coates did right) Yemandi (shout out to Redjack) that priest looking BP from Hickmans TRO, and finally Bashenga himself. Trials test combat, wisdom/intelligence, spirituality, morality, and his leadership for Wakandas future. It is a brutal trial as he is facing the greatest Black Panthers Wakanda has ever produced. Each time he passes he learns more about mother as they have all dealt with her to some capacity.


4. After passing the trials he learns from Bashenga himself the full truth about mother, how he defeated her, and what kind of devastation she will bring about if released. However, over the centuries mother has grown more powerful than she was when originally sealed and that seal is weakening, the events of TRO has weakened it beyond repair. so T'Challa will have to find a another place to contain her since the djahlia is no longer adequate. He learns that these powers that were granted through "prayer" for Storm, and Shuris ancient memory powers, was a ritual in which Mother was giving her power to Shuri and Storm weakening the djahlia further and bringing her closer to her freedom.

5. Mother learns of T'Challa breaking through her power n over himself and Wakanda so she reaches out to a foe to take care of Wakanda and release her from her prison. Enter the Black order. T'Challa and Shuri have a rematch with the black order, this time we see the full might of Wakanda, T'Challa kill BD on panel, Shuri kills proxima, and
the other living cabal members.

The black order gets annihilated by Wakandan military. We see prowlers N'Yami mother ships, crazy Wakandan defense system's, T'Chaka class destroyers, and Bast Roar (both new military tech created by tchalla) etc. All on panel. After the battle mother, using the battle as a distraction and thinking she has won, breaks out of the djahlia and attacks T'Challa, exactly what he wanted her to do, he leads her into the techno jungle hits her with a modified HSH injection that starts infecting her as soon as she enters, and it sends her to bast where she is judged and devoured. Bast, being pleased that T'Challa was able to do what the other BPs were not, hails him as the GOAT Black panther.

In the epilogue, Tetu and Zenzi, having been followers of mother, were able to take some of her power and flee Wakanda, vowing revenge. T'Challa, seeing what's going on in current events in x world and says peace out to storm. Malaika comes back to the scene, and T'Challa sets his focus on dealing with the loose ends from TRO. Namor and Doom

Umm, okay sold! You have done exactly what needs to happen so ends are tied up and we all can move on from this. Its funny to see that you and a few other posters have a much better vision than the current writer.