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    Quote Originally Posted by Cville View Post
    My idea for the novel series is she moves to Oakland and goes to a university there for a degree that is outside of her comfort zone(art history or something). While at the same time working at a WK outreach center and nights as a vigilante, secret identity and everything. It gives her her own story, doesn't' have to piggy back off Tchalla, and freedom to explore the character more.
    Honestly I guess This is the best case. Shuri doesn't work as a comic because she resides in Wakanda. The Oakland thing could work but rather then going to school she could just be running the outreach. Maybe take it further a d hsve her abd Nakia trying to establish more throughout the rest of tje world

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezyo1000 View Post
    Honestly I guess This is the best case. Shuri doesn't work as a comic because she resides in Wakanda. The Oakland thing could work but rather then going to school she could just be running the outreach. Maybe take it further a d hsve her abd Nakia trying to establish more throughout the rest of tje world
    I use college because the audience that would most likely read it would be college age and below. School allow her to make friends and boyfriends more organically.

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    From the Avengers Campus they're opening at Disney.


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    They could also just give Shuri her own kingdom and go from there. Maybe she negotiates some sort of semi-autonomous status for the Jabari-Lands and starts dating one of M’Baku’s younger brothers. She can move Wakandan Design Group facilities into the new kingdom while still managing global tech outreach and dealing with her own sandbox of rogues from that region. Maybe she eventually becomes Queen. Idk Marvel doesn’t know what they want her to be but it looks like the one good thing is that everyone is ignoring Coates’ master spirit-user characterization.

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    So Shuri's blocking now...


    The following characters do not have a kid sister...


    Bruce Wayne

    Peter Parker

    James Bond

    Flash Gordon


    Black male super heroes in the near future need to stray a bit away from the family reunions to thrive in this "Escapism" type genre that operates successfully with a skeleton crew of cast members at best!


    Sure... Most of our black parents have had sex more than once making bunkbeds optional so many of us do belong to extended families with lots of siblings and close relatives but the same can be said for our white male counterparts who seem to ditch the large family gatherings to fight imaginary villains as solo as possible!


    Tagalong blood kinfolk get in the way which is why they are generally absent from the whole "Escapism" experience to begin with to keep panel space and screen time to a bare minimal narrative!





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    OMG Avengers is heating up. Kind of worried for Wakanda right now
    The J-man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabare View Post
    OMG Avengers is heating up. Kind of worried for Wakanda right now
    Yeah . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by FLEX HECTIC View Post
    So Shuri's blocking now...


    The following characters do not have a kid sister...


    Bruce Wayne

    Peter Parker

    James Bond

    Flash Gordon


    Black male super heroes in the near future need to stray a bit away from the family reunions to thrive in this "Escapism" type genre that operates successfully with a skeleton crew of cast members at best!


    Sure... Most of our black parents have had sex more than once making bunkbeds optional so many of us do belong to extended families with lots of siblings and close relatives but the same can be said for our white male counterparts who seem to ditch the large family gatherings to fight imaginary villains as solo as possible!


    Tagalong blood kinfolk get in the way which is why they are generally absent from the whole "Escapism" experience to begin with to keep panel space and screen time to a bare minimal narrative!





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    Read the Amazing Spider-Man OGN Family Business, Chip Zdarsky's Peter Parker: The Spectacular Spider-Man, and Nick Spencer's Amazing Spider-Man as of #29. Long story made short, Peter Parker does have a previously unknown little sister named Teresa Parker, who was a CIA-turned-S.H.I.E.L.D. agent like their parents and who uses a flight harness similar to Falcon's or Vulture's, so she's not biting his spider motif.
    The spider is always on the hunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabare View Post
    OMG Avengers is heating up. Kind of worried for Wakanda right now
    Why? What the going down? Are you making note of the coalition of bad guys starting to come together as a threat to the Avengers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkrook View Post
    Why? What the going down? Are you making note of the coalition of bad guys starting to come together as a threat to the Avengers?
    And thus, a threat to Wakanda, since T'Challa is the chairperson of the Avengers and all.
    The spider is always on the hunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkrook View Post
    Why? What the going down? Are you making note of the coalition of bad guys starting to come together as a threat to the Avengers?
    And Namor is talking to some sort of remnant of his Phoenix powers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabare View Post
    OMG Avengers is heating up. Kind of worried for Wakanda right now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cville View Post
    I use college because the audience that would most likely read it would be college age and below. School allow her to make friends and boyfriends more organically.
    Man, most of y'all ideas for shuri are....very uninspired.

    Why does she need to study in another country LESS ADVANCED than her home?

    For millennia, Kings and Queens have had several children even though there is only one heir to the throne.... Doesn't mean siblings of the heir must create a separate kingdom just to create unnecessary strife and forced narcissistic conflict within the Royal family. THAT NONSENSE WILL NOT BE OUR WAKANDAN LEADING ROYAL FAMILY....Let that be in other leading royals or nobility elsewhere but not between Shuri and Tchalla.

    This is my proposal for Shuri.

    She becomes lead director of WDG and leading global emissary of the Wakandan government/leadership to the general world governments so she gets to travel globally a lot handling issues from...

    ... industrial sabotage or espionage from rivalling companies or organisations

    ... vibranium related incidents resulting from Wakandan products and/or black market vibranium

    ... Issues relating to Wakandans residing abroad as well as all earth bound Wakandan embassies

    ... Liaising, negotiating and ironing out agreements or partnerships or conflicting issues with CEOs, Leading pioneers, Heads of State, etc. Only consulting with Tchalla on issues that require his final say or input.

    .... And of course the global Wakandan spy network and their activities.

    So if Shuri gets to do all that.....what about BP himself- King Tchalla.

    ...Handling king duties to his kingdom... Whatever internal issues

    ... Spearheading Wakandan foreign policies will Shuri being amongst the lead consults.

    .... Liaising, negotiating and ironing out agreements or partnerships or conflicting issues with the leadership of alien civilizations especially pertaining to the intergalactic empire of wakanda/IEW depending on how TNCs run concludes and events of Empyre.

    ...If the IEW is dissolved then follow-up on Tchalla being earth's representative on the Congress of Worlds as he pushes to stretch the reach of Wakanda across space. This could perhaps be the PROPER BEGINNINGS of how the IEW was born....alongside whatever grander ulterior motives Tchalla might have.

    ... Bring back the Ultimates and have the team as part of an ongoing sub-plot within BP series.

    ...Tchalla being leader of the Avengers, it will be brilliant to see what extra curricular activities he does behind the scenes of the plots that occur in the avengers.

    Back to Shuri.

    She will have her team "The P.R.I.D.E" (from Maberrys' run) as part of her stort , give of take some shuffling of characters on that team.

    Keep Shuri and 'Portal man' together, develop the love story with the usual ups and downs but as an unbreakable soulmates.

    Get rid of Storm.....bring back Monica Lynne as BPs primary live interest who is now an empowered inhuman (with latent eternals dna) after the terrigen cloud plotline in the Inhumans comics.

    Plenty of story potential here.....Shuri gets to global trot a lot, and given what I have proposed as a story for her, she will be involved in some tangential Wakandan/krakoan plot. Speaking of which, wasn't it mentioned in the Xmen that spy- spores or whatever were spread everywhere inferring that its also in Wakanda?

    Certainly when Tchalla is away handling things semi-long term, Shuri becomes thrown custodian and when both are away from the kingdom then the council of elders ....but this shouldn't be an issue because Tchalla already had portal tech.

    Sorry for the rambling, but that's just the basic bare bones and/or template of an idea I have.

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    Hmmm....looking at Tchalla's KOD powers, he basically has an entire universe of super powered zombies to control from the Marvel zombieverse....wasted opportunity.

    Whatever happened to that eternal/deviant baby from Priest's run......wasted opportunity.

    Isn't Savage land an annex of Wakanda yet the xmen keep using it all willy nilly basically trespassing any how, Tchalla is never consulted. Don't speculate that Storm did this or that, if it ain't shown or mentioned on the page it didn't happen....wasted opportunity.

    Many in here claim falsely that BP has no villains except the repetitively overused Killmonger and Klaw....yet we have :

    One Million Year Man/OMYR

    the SUPREMACISTS,

    Achebe

    Madam Slay

    MOSES MAGNUM

    Death Tiger

    Princess Zanda

    Sekhmet

    KIBER THE KRUEL

    Klaw

    The Collectors

    ...etc


    All of them just need to be brought back with plots that build and them as well as the complimentary in cannon revamp....how else do u think a bootleg Halloween knock off gimmick like Green Goblin Norman Osborn became a resounding supervillain?

    You can't building a strong rogues gallery if nearly 98% of them have only been used once with the exception of Mbaku, Killmonger and Klaw.

    Even Batman with his immensely large rogues gallery, many of his villains keep returning in new plots and stories before and as new ones starting popping up.

    OMYR can be BPs own intergalactic level threat/villqim

    The supremacists can to BP what the sinister 6 are to Spidey or the U-Foes to Hulk. But I would try to make each of them have different supremacy issues j or better yet...make a coalition of people from
    Each from different empowered groups....an evil Eternal, a evil Xmen/mutant, an inhuman, an evil mythological god, etc who all believe that for earth to thrive humans must go extinct and/or become slaves to those more powerful and superior to them

    Achebe can be a derange geopolitical power broker/manipulator .....kind of a semi-joker version of Reddington from the blacklist TV show.

    Moses Magnum .....is Moses Magnum, lol

    ...etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Besouro View Post
    Man, most of y'all ideas for shuri are....very uninspired.

    Why does she need to study in another country LESS ADVANCED than her home?

    For millennia, Kings and Queens have had several children even though there is only one heir to the throne.... Doesn't mean siblings of the heir must create a separate kingdom just to create unnecessary strife and forced narcissistic conflict within the Royal family. THAT NONSENSE WILL NOT BE OUR WAKANDAN LEADING ROYAL FAMILY....Let that be in other leading royals or nobility elsewhere but not between Shuri and Tchalla.

    This is my proposal for Shuri.

    She becomes lead director of WDG and leading global emissary of the Wakandan government/leadership to the general world governments so she gets to travel globally a lot handling issues from...

    ... industrial sabotage or espionage from rivalling companies or organisations

    ... vibranium related incidents resulting from Wakandan products and/or black market vibranium

    ... Issues relating to Wakandans residing abroad as well as all earth bound Wakandan embassies

    ... Liaising, negotiating and ironing out agreements or partnerships or conflicting issues with CEOs, Leading pioneers, Heads of State, etc. Only consulting with Tchalla on issues that require his final say or input.

    .... And of course the global Wakandan spy network and their activities.

    So if Shuri gets to do all that.....what about BP himself- King Tchalla.

    ...Handling king duties to his kingdom... Whatever internal issues

    ... Spearheading Wakandan foreign policies will Shuri being amongst the lead consults.

    .... Liaising, negotiating and ironing out agreements or partnerships or conflicting issues with the leadership of alien civilizations especially pertaining to the intergalactic empire of wakanda/IEW depending on how TNCs run concludes and events of Empyre.

    ...If the IEW is dissolved then follow-up on Tchalla being earth's representative on the Congress of Worlds as he pushes to stretch the reach of Wakanda across space. This could perhaps be the PROPER BEGINNINGS of how the IEW was born....alongside whatever grander ulterior motives Tchalla might have.

    ... Bring back the Ultimates and have the team as part of an ongoing sub-plot within BP series.

    ...Tchalla being leader of the Avengers, it will be brilliant to see what extra curricular activities he does behind the scenes of the plots that occur in the avengers.

    Back to Shuri.

    She will have her team "The P.R.I.D.E" (from Maberrys' run) as part of her stort , give of take some shuffling of characters on that team.

    Keep Shuri and 'Portal man' together, develop the love story with the usual ups and downs but as an unbreakable soulmates.

    Get rid of Storm.....bring back Monica Lynne as BPs primary live interest who is now an empowered inhuman (with latent eternals dna) after the terrigen cloud plotline in the Inhumans comics.

    Plenty of story potential here.....Shuri gets to global trot a lot, and given what I have proposed as a story for her, she will be involved in some tangential Wakandan/krakoan plot. Speaking of which, wasn't it mentioned in the Xmen that spy- spores or whatever were spread everywhere inferring that its also in Wakanda?

    Certainly when Tchalla is away handling things semi-long term, Shuri becomes thrown custodian and when both are away from the kingdom then the council of elders ....but this shouldn't be an issue because Tchalla already had portal tech.

    Sorry for the rambling, but that's just the basic bare bones and/or template of an idea I have.
    Shuri doesn't need to be leading any sort if globe trotting delegation type stuff, that T'Challas deal helm most of the stuff you are saying Shuri should do, T'Challa does and that shouldn't change. However if I were to sya something dhe could take over since T'Challa is the superhero of the mythos, it would be like you said, to have her the leader of the Wakandan design group, and she could also be the head of the Wakandan Spy Network, this is an elite group of HZ, and The MA (the original ones the ones that held off an army, not the diet coke version Coates gave us) and they specialize in missions that the AoW don't do, aka a real super spy team.

    Eden can bounce with Storm. He isn't tied to the mythos in anyway. Since his creation him and T'Challa never even interacted till Coates all of a sudden made him super important to the mythos without any context or previous interactions. He is a glorified Uber driver and still has zero development after leeching onto the mythos for 4 years, just cut off the fat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezyo1000 View Post
    Shuri doesn't need to be leading any sort if globe trotting delegation type stuff, that T'Challas deal helm most of the stuff you are saying Shuri should do, T'Challa does and that shouldn't change. However if I were to sya something dhe could take over since T'Challa is the superhero of the mythos, it would be like you said, to have her the leader of the Wakandan design group, and she could also be the head of the Wakandan Spy Network, this is an elite group of HZ, and The MA (the original ones the ones that held off an army, not the diet coke version Coates gave us) and they specialize in missions that the AoW don't do, aka a real super spy team.

    Eden can bounce with Storm. He isn't tied to the mythos in anyway. Since his creation him and T'Challa never even interacted till Coates all of a sudden made him super important to the mythos without any context or previous interactions. He is a glorified Uber driver and still has zero development after leeching onto the mythos for 4 years, just cut off the fat

    Shuri gets to move and its not all about damn Oakland or america each and every time a Wakandan leaves Wakanda.... Shuri leading the WDG and being lead emissary makes her both a CEO and a foreign minister.

    The WDG and being lead emissary are both perfect cover to travel and coordinate spy activity as a lead executive but not necessary the head...that lies with Tchalla but she can still make executive decisions in urgent circumstances.

    Just look at what I had for Tchalla, he still has PLEEEENTY to do coordinate on his end between kingly duties to leading Avengers to being on the Congress of World to Agents of Wakanda...I would follow up on all these exploits in the BP solo.

    Let Shuri also be as mobile....and we get to see her doing other stuff than just smiting at Tchalla or being some tech guru wet blanket in the royal palace.....I already pointed out many responsibilities she would have.

    I enjoy Manifold and Shuri....its probably the only idea of TNC I have liked after all Manifold is not even being used in the Xmen.

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