And in Doom War, the heroes stop Doom in the end. If something like that happens in other books, it's fine. If they do something like that with Killmonger where he shows up in someone elses book, beats the hero early on, but the hero is able to stop him in the end that's probably not something anyone will object to (other than the issue of T'Challa probably being the first person to really beat him rather than some other hero in some other book).
I think it's just a potential issue if the villain doesn't get stopped by the hero in the end.
Yeah, that's fair.
The most obvious and important place to really show how dangerous Killmonger can and should be is in the Black Panther book. He's a BP rogue... if he can't do it there, he won't be able to do it anywhere.
Granted BP books have done a very good job of propping up Killmonger in the BP books... but he probably needs a BIG epic story. The Killmonger equivalent of the Killing Joke or whatever. Generally speaking I hate the idea of killing off supporting cast for no reason... but I almost think something like that might be necessarily to really level up Killmonger a bit and make this a bit more personal for T'Challa.
I think that's what they should have done with Klaw. He's a VERY powerful character... boost him up, have him absolutely wreck T'CHalla, Wakanda and his supporting cast before he's finally defeated. That'll show people that he's not a joke. Coates did an okay showing with Klaw... he wasn't KOed in 4 panels, so it's the best showing he's had in years. But I would have liked to see a bit more from him. Klaw can be a beast if written as one.
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Yeah both Klaw and Killmonger need big storylines to make them more popular. Like Loki got some major storylines and even Surtur to a degree. THe MCU made Killmonger and Klaw being used more in adaptions like Klaw had appeared in previous adaptions before but Killmonger hasn't until the mcu and since then Killmonger had been seen in more adaptions. Like Killmonger and Klaw were in video games.
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Yeah, I think in hindsight making BP's first event a Doom story was a mistake. I get why they did ... Doom and T'CHalla make for a very interesting match up. Both very powerful and very intelligent kings.
But the BP rogues probably needed the boost. Klaw or Killmonger getting a big story might have done more long term good for the BP mythos. Though Klaw did get that Klaws of the Panther mini back in the day... unfortunately I couldn't even bring myself to touch it because of the art.
Excerpt from the Shuri novel.
https://www.scribd.com/document/4557...rpt#from_embed
To be clear i wasn't simply stating that he needs to just show up in other heroes books, but rather have him appearing in BP, mainly and other books (a couple, doesn't need oversaturation) and kick something off with him. Hell if marvel reigned Coates in and had some oversight this intergalactic Wakanda could of been the perfect set-up for exactly what i am talking about to elevate killmonger. Done away with the Spiderman and x men crap and just powered him up using the rich mythos he hails from and establish this empire as a super threat that it should be, and a fight earth can't hope to win without the help of T'Challa. Basically, what needs to happen to Erik is whst Priest did to deathstroke
Read a snippet, it's loading slow so i will check later.. seems like they are trying to merge the MCU version with the comics.. in the MCU it makes sense to give Shuri a role aka Q while T'Challa would ve able to showcase his genius outside the lab. But this whole deal trying to integrate that elsewhere needs to be met with care. Just like the MCU, don't take qualities away to give to another character and not highlight them on T'Challa
At the risk of pissing off people here, black men do indeed get a bad rap from society and media, but that's no reason to be dumping on attempts at uplifting black girls and women. Granted, those attempts shouldn't also come at the expense of black boys and men, though I frankly blame that on certain (kinds of) people trying to divide black people and set them against each other so they can't present a unified front against the many faces and facets of racism in our society. Dismissing that as just "pandering to feminists" or whatever plays into the division those people want to create in the black community, and make no mistake --- they want us divided. Black men against black women, black women against black men . . . that won't be solved by downing on black female achievement or denigrating black male excellence, but making room for black women and men to be excellent and achieve together, to complement each other's strengths and compensate for each other's weaknesses. That is what we should be striving toward as a community.
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