Black Panther Appreciation 2020

[Marvell2100]

Disney: We can't recast out of respect but we can push the movie ahead as planned bc we can still make money off that ass!


But really.... look at the announced plans of the other movies. T'challa made a billion dollars yet... where are teh Wakanda spin offs? Captain marvel got one with secret invasion. Thor got one wit Loki. Cap franchise got fal/WS. Dr strange is infecting the whole damn phase it seems like. Huge news bringing back fanservice crap to Spider-man. Freaking hawkeye has a show. Iron Man franchise got TWO shows.

Black Panther franchise got... their lead character buried.

No one at Marvel cares about BP and never did. A billion dollars couldn't change it. Nothing ever will. It takes multigenerational fan boys to change stuff like this just like it takes generational wealth to drag black people out of poverty.

Yeah, that makes no sense to me either. How is not recasting BP respecting Boseman. T'Challa the character is an inspiration to a lot of people so now they want to take that away as a show of respect? That actually a slap in the face.

[Dboi654]

Please do not delete the blog.

DONT DELETE THE BLOG!!!

For all we know, we may get another BP animated series or game and of course the comics are still coming. Brutha, we still need you and the blog.

I was hoping for this but with the perennial trend of BP fans getting the disappointing treatment from Marvel on a constant basis, I won't hold my breath. Even if they did, they probably focus on Shuri rather than the main hero that brought Wakanda to light. After all, that's what the "masses" want. Shuri to take over and leave T'Challa in limbo.

[Ekie]

If this is true, this phase wouldn't be focusing around Dr. Strange... who made ONE THIRD the amount of Black Panther in the US.

It isn't all money.

Money and race.

[MindofShadow]

I was hoping for this but with the perennial trend of BP fans getting the disappointing treatment from Marvel on a constant basis, I won't hold my breath. Even if they did, they probably focus on Shuri rather than the main hero that brought Wakanda to light. After all, that's what the "masses" want. Shuri to take over and leave T'Challa in limbo.

from a pure money standpoint ,why would you put any resources into a character you are afraid to use?

even with tchallas popularity, he barely got into video games as DLC and never relaly advertised.

whats gonna happen when he is MIA from the biggest money producer?

[Dboi654]

from a pure money standpoint ,why would you put any resources into a character you are afraid to use?

even with tchallas popularity, he barely got into video games as DLC and never relaly advertised.

whats gonna happen when he is MIA from the biggest money producer?

Probably be treated like he never existed in the BP mythos.

[Chesterfield]

Probably be treated like he never existed in the BP mythos.

Which is ironic because that's the same excuse folks are using to justify not recasting. They're inexplicably "afraid" a recast will treat Boseman like he never existed. Seriously, the black man really is hated. Bast!

[Ekie]

Defeated Killmonger, halted his plan to start a war between Wakanda and the rest of the world, removed Wakanda's isolationist country and stopped Zemo from escaping punishment for his crimes.



T'Challa has never been responsible for Wakanda being advanced in science and technology. At least not solely.



Zemo is now a wanted a criminal and the world knows he murdered T'Chaka. And Zemo's goal was to destroy the Avengers permanently and avoid going to jail by committing suicide. T'Challa stopped him from doing the latter and the former didn't happen given the Avengers reunited.



How was this his fault? Wakanda would have been vulnerable to the Snap regardless of if they were isolated or not.

And let's not pretend comic T'Challa has a perfect track record, even before Coates.

1. Killmonger will be back because his boy is directing the movie so didn't really accomplish much in the grand scheme. Just got tossed off a waterfall and turn into memes. And now people are championing a reformed killmonger to come back as the Black Panther.

2. Turn Zemo into the US authorities only for him to be released later on and causing more damage in the future. Great accomplishment.

3. Tchalla Has always been what kind of top scientists and leader in their advancements. At what point has Shuri been that?

4. The point wasnt the track record. The point is that hes atleast AROUND to defend his actions.

[chief12d]

from a pure money standpoint ,why would you put any resources into a character you are afraid to use?

even with tchallas popularity, he barely got into video games as DLC and never relaly advertised.

whats gonna happen when he is MIA from the biggest money producer?

Like you said, it’s not always about money. There’s a fan bias in creative industries based around multimedia franchises. We’re getting Kate Bishop and Hawkeye DLC before Black Panther because there’s someone in that boardroom advocating on their behalf. Doctor Strange is getting pushed because the producers have a special place in their heart for the character. We have to accept as fans that T’Challa was a niche low B-high C list character before circa 2016. And to be frank a lot of that support was driven by black fans on the margins of the Marvel fanbase.

I bet there are virtually NO major creators over the age of 40 at Marvel that place him in their top 5. Then the movie does well and you still have people in positions of power that think it was a fluke or that they can afford to treat him like Ant-Man. There is no intrinsic love for the character and it shows in the dearth of material and promotion he got. And when he did get push it was in a half-assed way that didn’t actually lead to anything substantial (the Coates spin-offs, the lazy teasing going on in the Avengers game, cutting Redjack’s cartoon, etc.)

Marvel doesn’t care about T’Challa, they care about the money associated with the Black Panther mantle. Time will tell if they can replicate the profitability with someone else in the suit, across not just box office, but toys and other revenue streams. At this point all I care about is comics, the movie will come out when it does and I’ll have the same expectations for the sequel that I did for the original. And while I am watching to support the story of Wakanda I’m more interested in seeing how they handle T’Challa’s sidelining.

[The Cool Thatguy]

Money and race.

Dr. Strange is getting pushed because it's pretty easy to spin Avenger level bad guys out of his franchise for those sweet, sweet team up movies we call Avengers. That's not possible with a series as grounded, relatively speaking, as Panther

[MindofShadow]

Dr. Strange is getting pushed because it's pretty easy to spin Avenger level bad guys out of his franchise for those sweet, sweet team up movies we call Avengers. That's not possible with a series as grounded, relatively speaking, as Panther

They put Kang in Ant-Man of all things.

They could have easily put Kang in Black Panther.

ANT MAN got a bigger push than T'challa for Bastsake.

[Dboi654]

Which is ironic because that's the same excuse folks are using to justify not recasting. They're inexplicably "afraid" a recast will treat Boseman like he never existed. Seriously, the black man really is hated. Bast!

The fact that some people think that way is completely asinine to me. Sean Connery was the first to portray James Bond and has been replaced by other actors numerous times and yet, we still remember Connery as the OG and to some extent, the best James Bond.

So that idea that Boseman will be forgotten just doesn't make sense.

[Marvell2100]

Which is ironic because that's the same excuse folks are using to justify not recasting. They're inexplicably "afraid" a recast will treat Boseman like he never existed. Seriously, the black man really is hated. Bast!

Yeah, what a way to honor Boseman than to forget about the character he helped bring to life. Way to go Marvel Studios. Good job in blowing up a billion dollar franchise.

[chief12d]

They put Kang in Ant-Man of all things.

They could have easily put Kang in Black Panther.

ANT MAN got a bigger push than T'challa for Bastsake.

And Tony doesn’t exactly have cosmic-level rogues yet he was the central character of the MCU saga featuring Thanos. The idea that the primary character in the MCU needs to directly be related to the main antagonist simply isn’t true. It’s what the creators want and bending that to fit into a profitable storyline. At the very least Carol showed enough money-making potential out the gate with the second highest box office for an MCU solo film. Plus we know Marvel is gonna do their damndest to support a white female lead in opposition to Wonder Woman. They’re not exactly under any stress to push out something like BP with T’Challa when the closest competition is Cyborg lol.

[The Cool Thatguy]

They put Kang in Ant-Man of all things.

They could have easily put Kang in Black Panther.

ANT MAN got a bigger push than T'challa for Bastsake.

They could have, yes.

But what relevance would Kang have had to our modern America?

Kang is a fantasy villain who represents fantasy threats.

Kang ain't Killmonger

[chief12d]

They could have, yes.

But what relevance would Kang have had to our modern America?

Kang is a fantasy villain who represents fantasy threats.

Kang ain't Killmonger

Killmonger has never really been a social commentary character. He had some interesting views about the nature of the world, but the black radical terrorist take on his character is an instance of Coogler using his creative license to make the villain reflect the themes of the film. He could do that with Kang if he wanted and if Disney made that offer.