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    Clasic Covers Thor and Amora in Legend of .................


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    Quote Originally Posted by juan678 View Post
    Clasic Covers Thor and Amora in Legend of .................


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    I really appreciate that you try to keep the thread alive, it is difficult I know, I have tried to do it for a long time and always tried to comment on something relevant, however difficult it might be.

    Maybe it would be a good idea to put something that is relevant, not just things in which Amora has hardly any relation, not even a mention, no matter how much on a cover she can come out just because.

    And it would also be nice if you remember Lorelei and Sylvie Lushton from time to time

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    Quote Originally Posted by juan678 View Post
    Well, looks more or less nice but I think this pic is a lot better.

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    Journey into Mystery #116 May 1965
    "The Trial of the Gods!"
    Odin sends Thor and Loki to Skornheim to endure the Trial of the Gods
    which will show which one of his sons is lying to him;

    Meanwhile, the Enchantress and the Executioner set about
    tormenting Jane Foster in a bid to influence the outcome of the trial;

    Odin sends Balder to deal with them.

    Script by Stan Lee, pencils by Jack Kirby and Carl Hubbell, inks by Vince Colletta and Carl Hubbell

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    Avengers #16 May 1965
    "The Old Order Changeth!"
    The battle from the previous issue continues but the Avengers are
    hindered as there are too many civilians close by for them to let loose.

    Thor creates a dimensional space warp which transports the Melter, the Black Knight and themselves to another dimension.

    The Executioner and the Enchantress manage to escape since, as Asgardians themselves, they knew what Thor was attempting.
    The Melter and Black Knight are easily captured in the other dimension.

    Meanwhile Captain America and Rick Jones bury Zemo and escape his troops.
    They make their way through the rainforest to reach an airport.

    When the Avengers hold their next meeting, Thor is MIA he's gone to Asgard.
    Wasp remarks that she needs a break from the constant danger of Avengers' missions.
    Giant-Man and Iron-Man consider disbanding the team.
    Just then, an intruder breaks into the mansion and ties up their butler.
    The intruder is Iron-Man's foe Hawkeye, who applies for membership.
    He relates how he and the Black Widow were duped into working for Soviet spies
    but now he wishes to repent by fighting alongside the Avengers.
    He demonstrates his archery prowess by freeing the butler from his bonds with a trick shot.

    Iron Man, Giant-Man, the Wasp and Hawkeye hold a press conference in which they announce they are looking for new members.
    In Switzerland, the Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver learn that the Avengers are recruiting new members.
    They write a letter to apply. After traveling by cruise ship to the U.S., Tony Stark picks up the mutant siblings.
    Quicksilver demonstrates his speed by beating Stark's car to the mansion on foot. He even stops to allow the car to catch up to him.

    Captain America and Rick return just as Wanda and Pietro are being inducted.
    He is devastated to hear that Iron Man, Giant-Man and the Wasp have all decided to take a leave of absence.

    Cap will be the full-time leader of the new team.
    Iron-Man's last piece of advice to Cap is that the new team ought to track down the Hulk
    and convince him to rejoin the team as they could use his sheer strength.

    Iron-Man and separately Giant-Man and the Wasp all depart.
    The new Avengers team of Captain America, Hawkeye, Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch reveal themselves to
    the public while the world including many villains wonder if the Avengers will become a weaker or stronger force.

    Script by Stan Lee, layouts by Jack Kirby, finished art by Dick Ayers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie_1981 View Post
    It is difficult because very few writers have tried to do something else with her and I emphasize on to try but then either it was nothing or it did not go ahead.

    Of the few writers more or less who tried to advance are Warren Ellis in the World Engine arc with the fact that she is Thor's girlfriend at last (objective completed without using her magic or charms, just something natural), Jurgens in his Thor's run and those one-shots of Fraction that later did not reflect anything in his Thor run and who really changed something It was Simonson but I think the theme only reduced it to Skurge the Executioner and his iconic death leaving only the theme of meeting Amora's sister, Lorelei who was terribly wasted potential when it would be the perfect chance to know Amora's past.

    With DeFalco it was like a roller coaster, on the one hand Amora was evil, on the other ally without much definition. Maybe something good was in the series of Thor: Son of Asgard with the adolescent Amora and the Valkyrie but that was not canon.

    Actually, Marvel's treatment with the Enchantress is a complete mess of ugly involution to previous characterization of the 60s that seems to have no end because the last 15 years are a disaster. Even the appearance of young Sylvie Lushton has barely had continuity when that had incredible potential.

    Her motivations vary according to the writer, but always instead of steps forward, steps are taken behind and that is never good, I still hope that someone does something because in the end it will be considered that the best thing is to kill her and forget even her existence because writers don't love her.

    She is a sorceress, one of the best in Asgard but very badly treated and humiliated in ridiculous ways due to ignorance of the person who writes the stories that she is a Goddess and this is happening for decades.
    What did you think of her in the classic New Mutants story?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will Evans View Post
    What did you think of her in the classic New Mutants story?
    I think it was good to show her villainy but have little sense considering her story (Skurge's death and her posterior grief, her beginning of a relationship with Heimdall), on Simonson's Thor, something that Claremont seemed to forget when he wrote the story.

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    Today Guest Starring Amora in Avengers of Wasteland 4 but

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    I understand your anger.
    spoilers:
    She gets killed by Ant-Man.
    end of spoilers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digifiend View Post
    I understand your anger.
    spoilers:
    She gets killed by Ant-Man.
    end of spoilers
    Seriously???

    Looks like a joke, thank for this info, now i'm pretty sure that I will not buy this poor book.

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    curiosity

    Will you be the one to bring about Thor's child(ren)? We know he had granddaughters but who is thier grandmother? Who are their parents?

    GOOD. QUESTION


    https://twitter.com/Doncates/status/1257824379020468226


    My vote Amora and Magni For Canon



    Too Secret Wars n 12 1984 Guest Starring Amora


    https://www.cbr.com/secret-wars-doom...eryone-finale/

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    Quote Originally Posted by juan678 View Post
    curiosity

    Will you be the one to bring about Thor's child(ren)? We know he had granddaughters but who is thier grandmother? Who are their parents?

    GOOD. QUESTION


    https://twitter.com/Doncates/status/1257824379020468226


    My vote Amora and Magni For Canon



    Too Secret Wars n 12 1984 Guest Starring Amora


    https://www.cbr.com/secret-wars-doom...eryone-finale/
    It would be nice but I have little trust on it.

    I tried to ask questions to Cates again and ... of course, no answers to me as usual.

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    avengers of the Wasteland 4 Antman


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    Quote Originally Posted by juan678 View Post
    avengers of the Wasteland 4 Antman


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    How disrespectful and lame, I don't like it.

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