Bruce Banner: The Hulk Appreciation 2020

[PlatinumThorns]

Just to bump the thread again, does anyone else feel like the "War on Roxxon" arc was supposed to be longer than it was? Al even made a joke about it in the last issue where a guy said the Hulk didn't even destroy the Human world, just one company. Ewing said the Avengers will come into play again a fair while ago and I'd thought the Roxxon War arc was supposed to be basically "World War Hulk 2.0" with them in it. I wonder if he took what the outragers were saying to heart and just ended it with #33?

[Sataniel]

Not sure. There were some plot points that seemingly should have relevance, but really didn't. Commercialisation of Hulk and Namor's involvement. But if anything it was slimmed down in the middle. The whole "war on the world" part was cut short - but it was cut short in-universe by Leader.

[Immortal Hulk]

I'd agree with that in part. Maybe he extended some aspects of the arc.

However, I don't think the Avengers were supposed to appear there. It wasn't big enough in scope.

I believe they'll come back probably closer to the end of the run. Things are worse and worse. A lot of terrible things are going to happen and we know, as always with the Hulk, there's a lot of collateral damage (see #35). After the Leader is done with the Hulk...I can't see a world war against the Hulk happening.

[Cth]

If we're on the 294+ track, they should appear soon likely to live up with 300 so to speak once things get real dark.

The question is, will it result in a new WWH or exile ala Crossroads?

[Immortal Hulk]

If we're on the 294+ track, they should appear soon likely to live up with 300 so to speak once things get real dark.

The question is, will it result in a new WWH or exile ala Crossroads?

It would be interesting, imo, banishing him to an alternate universe, completely unlike the 616. Maybe by accident because they're completely out of choices.

[Intothevoid]

I will praise pretty much every aspect of Ewings IH book, but I will say that the pacing of it sometimes feels off, there are issues/arcs that end to quickly and sometimes bombard you with a crap ton of information very hard to absorb and then there are some issues that feel like they are filler and could have been handled in the third of the pages it took.

As for the Roxxon arc specifically, i dunno really, it does feel like it was rushed in the end, as satisfying as it is to see Agger in the state he was, i feel like it's weird that Hulk never fought him much less beat him up at the end. Although i do remember Al saying, months and months ago that the Avengers and other characters from the larger MU will appear around issue 40, that's where i personally feel will be the World War Hulk 2.0, especially now after we've seen the last issue, we all know Hulk will be blamed for killing who knows how many people and that's not something any hero can ignore.

[Sataniel]

Immortal Hulk #38 cover (spoilerish)

If we're on the 294+ track, they should appear soon likely to live up with 300 so to speak once things get real dark.

The question is, will it result in a new WWH or exile ala Crossroads?

I think you overstate the analogues. Ewing takes and references stuff from all around the place. Sure the "Hulk is loved, rebuilds a town he broke and then things go to hell" is from that period of Mantlo run, but Leader just did Middletown 2.0 Gammatic Boogaloo and that was #345. I actually suspected that the Secret Empire version of Hulk may break free now that Devil is trapped and that would actually lead to a sort of reenactment of the arc you mention, but the cover seems to suggest otherwise.

I will praise pretty much every aspect of Ewings IH book, but I will say that the pacing of it sometimes feels off, there are issues/arcs that end to quickly and sometimes bombard you with a crap ton of information very hard to absorb and then there are some issues that feel like they are filler and could have been handled in the third of the pages it took.

While I don't really feel like there ever are too many information, I must agree that pacing sometimes is all over the place. The Hell arc felt super rushed. On the other hand just after it we had what felt like an incredible decompression. And then Roxxon ended without really using few things that were introduced for it.

[Immortal Hulk]

I will praise pretty much every aspect of Ewings IH book, but I will say that the pacing of it sometimes feels off, there are issues/arcs that end to quickly and sometimes bombard you with a crap ton of information very hard to absorb and then there are some issues that feel like they are filler and could have been handled in the third of the pages it took.

As for the Roxxon arc specifically, i dunno really, it does feel like it was rushed in the end, as satisfying as it is to see Agger in the state he was, i feel like it's weird that Hulk never fought him much less beat him up at the end. Although i do remember Al saying, months and months ago that the Avengers and other characters from the larger MU will appear around issue 40, that's where i personally feel will be the World War Hulk 2.0, especially now after we've seen the last issue, we all know Hulk will be blamed for killing who knows how many people and that's not something any hero can ignore.

I agree somewhat about the pace, indeed. But nothing can be perfect, ins't?

Btw, I was no bothered about Hulk not fighting Minotaur. This was a guy who got knocked out by a punch from thor! Hulk would probably knock him out, lol!
Not to mention how easily Xemnu handled him.

[Immortal Hulk]

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[Vordan]

I agree somewhat about the pace, indeed. But nothing can be perfect, ins't?

Btw, I was no bothered about Hulk not fighting Minotaur. This was a guy who got knocked out by a punch from thor! Hulk would probably knock him out, lol!
Not to mention how easily Xemnu handled him.

What Xemnu did to Dario felt perfectly retributive imo. Hulk would’ve smeared Agger all over the floor with ease, Xemnu eating Agger fit the horror vibe. And Hulk got to kick Xemnu’s ass so I was content.

[Immortal Hulk]

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[Immortal Hulk]

What Xemnu did to Dario felt perfectly retributive imo. Hulk would’ve smeared Agger all over the floor with ease, Xemnu eating Agger fit the horror vibe. And Hulk got to kick Xemnu’s ass so I was content.

Yeah, it was the best outcome. What Xemnu did to him was horrifc; one of the most gruesome endings for a villain I've seen. But, if we think about, if he was to face the Devil Hulk, for example, I don't know if things would've been prettier.

[braddocks]

I think it was better than Xemnu was the one to end Agger because the narrative heavily revolved around Roxxon doing whatever they liked and getting away with it with no consequences, so it was nice for one of their own schemes to be the one to ruin them.

[Immortal Hulk]

I think it was better than Xemnu was the one to end Agger because the narrative heavily revolved around Roxxon doing whatever they liked and getting away with it with no consequences, so it was nice for one of their own schemes to be the one to ruin them.

Not to mention that Agger was so sure He was in control of the situation, while Xemnu was manipulating him since the beginning.

[Venom Melendez]

Just to bump the thread again, does anyone else feel like the "War on Roxxon" arc was supposed to be longer than it was?

No, it felt like the arc reached it's logical conclusion.