Yeah, a design like that would've worked better on Anya Corazon. She has a mostly black costume too (it's Julia's old black and white one) but her hair is brown, and thus she doesn't have the hair/mask same colour problem. Also, Jessica doesn't use webs, so the web designs don't make sense. Pretty much all of the other spider folks do use webs - if they were trying to make Jessica look more like a Spider-Man character (until Spider-Verse, she had nothing to do with Peter besides both being in Bendis's Avengers), it's actually surprising they haven't given her web shooters (they could've handed her Gwen's, since she now has organic webs thanks to her Venom symbiote).
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Well, Jess was moved from the Avengers office to the Spidey office right around the time of the Sony leaks(2014?is) That's about when they started trying to toss her in with Spidey. And I really think that 1610 Jessica Drew is the reason why 616 Jess is now lumped with the other spiders and is a shared character with Sony. If 1610 Jess had had a different name, 616 Jess Drew would be with Marvel Studios.
Granted this is all speculation on my part and I'm probably wrong, but it makes sense to me.
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If that's the reasoning, it's dumb. They got rid of Ultimate Jessica when Secret Wars happened - and her codename was Black Widow by the end anyway!
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Sony purchased the rights to the Spider-Man license in the late 90s and the characters they could use at the time were outlined there, which included present and future characters that fall under the Spider-Man franchise umbrella. They cant retroactively claim Jessica, 15 somewhat years later, which means they already had access to her and its bc they have the rights to Spider-Woman. Marvel Studios can use Jessica, but not as Spider-Woman. That mantle lies with Sony. They'd have to keep her as a human and/or remove the Spider elements from her
Nauk's art is almost identical to Marie Severin's original design. I have to agree with danielsan, that it really doesnt unless that's what the viewer is looking for anyway. No one complains about Spider-Mans belt pointing at his crotch.
There's being a sexy character and then there's cheesecake. Jess in her classic costume is often depicted in a cheesecake way rather than as heroic. It was drawn that way as late as the spider-verse crossovers before Jess got the Anka outfit.
There's a place for cheesecake art, but imo it's not in a characters solo comic. That's why I didn't like the second story as much in the new series. The Same artist also drew Jess in the Anka outfit during Spider-Force -which was also cheesecake but not nearly as bad imo.
You can absolutely draw a character as sexy but still lack the cheesecake aspect.
I want to see Jess kicking ass and taking names without having her tits n ass shoved in my face every other panel.
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I misspoke. That's not Jessica's original costume. We all know the yellow region descends to the vertex of her bikini line. I've never known Nauck to be a "cheesecake factory" artist, who hypersexualizes women in his art. I highly doubt that he was aiming for anything suggestive.
On another note, does anyone know why some form of the Ultimate Spider-Woman costume wasn't used in lieu of the current black model? Granted, it lacks the Spidey webbing motif, but that's an easy fix.
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They probably want to keep 616 Jess who has nothing to do with Peter separate from 1610 Jess who is a clone of Peter.
1610 Jess to me is more of an Alternate Ben Reilly than an Alternate Jessica Drew. She should have been called Jessica Reilly.
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