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    Quote Originally Posted by AmiMizuno View Post
    I love these two. It really makes me wonder how Damian will see Dick in the future. In a sense he will hold respect for him but will it be a different kind of respect than he has with his father. This also makes me wonder how is his other relationships with the others? Or even the JL

    To be honest I often thought Jason would have been the one Damian bonded with more
    You'd think, with all that they have in common, but they probably have the worst relationship of the Bat Family right now.

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    I mean how much do they have in common? I mean they both are violent. Both feel betrayed or harmed by Bruce in a sense. Didn’t have the best father figure. By that I mean Jason’s dad was a criminal and Damian’s grandfather is a villain. Talia isn’t better

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmiMizuno View Post
    I mean how much do they have in common? I mean they both are violent. Both feel betrayed or harmed by Bruce in a sense. Didn’t have the best father figure. By that I mean Jason’s dad was a criminal and Damian’s grandfather is a villain. Talia isn’t better
    Both had a good amount of time in the League of Assassins and strained relationships (to say the least) with Talia. Both died horrific deaths and were brought back to life later on. Talia also introduced Damian to Bruce, and Jason to Ducra of the All-Caste (ancient order of good assassins).

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmiMizuno View Post
    I love these two. It really makes me wonder how Damian will see Dick in the future. In a sense he will hold respect for him but will it be a different kind of respect than he has with his father. This also makes me wonder how is his other relationships with the others? Or even the JL

    To be honest I often thought Jason would have been the one Damian bonded with more
    I hope their relationship only gets better. It's unlikely that he'll ever have anything but respect for Dick. He has a different sort of respect and a different type of bond with Dick than he does Dick. Bruce he used to hero worship but that's since changed but he still wants to make him proud and earn his love.

    Dick he fears losing the love he knows Dick has for him but I also think that he holds Dick to a higher standard. He's never messed up so Damian will feel it more if he does mess up.
    Damian is also very insecure about the fact that Bruce counts on and holds Dick in high esteem. he is also insecure because he fears he'll never be as good as Dick and he'll never be as accepted.

    The current JL
    Ollie, Superman - like him
    Flash thinks he's a bad influence but is protective
    During No Justice the adult heroes respect, recognise and have acknowledged his skills but some seem to put up him kinda like an annoying bug

    Damian is a reverse Jason so he's the one person he's unlikely to bond with. Killer who went on to become a hero [Robin] It;s like asking a drug addict to bond with someone who's just given up drugs.

    [I know Jason hasn't killed in a while] Unlike Damian who went on a journey seeking redemption for his misdeeds and who is remorseful for his past. I don't think we've had a redemption arc for Jason and since he had an agreement with Bruce about not killing in Gotham that leads one to believe that he isn't adverse to killing, isn't remorseful therefore isn't in need of redemption.

    Therefore the thing's they haves in common are a rubbish dad, worse mum,dying and coming back. i don't think those are things that either of them want to share a cup of tea discussing. Those are negative things so they'll never really bond over those not to mention that since Steph and Dick have also died and come back [and Damian likes them a lot more] if he needs to talk about that then he'll most likely go to them.


    Jason is everything that Damian is actively fighting and working towards not becoming. It'll be hitting the rewind button for Damian so even though Jason has reached out Damian has never accepted [aside from the dubious current TT run]

    Jason and Damian aren't alike like most think and their journeys are a reversal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmiMizuno View Post
    I mean how much do they have in common? I mean they both are violent. Both feel betrayed or harmed by Bruce in a sense. Didn’t have the best father figure. By that I mean Jason’s dad was a criminal and Damian’s grandfather is a villain. Talia isn’t better
    They have a few things in common but not anymore than any other of the other Bat kids.
    All the boys have a bad dad in Bruce
    Cass has a criminal father, grew up in the LoA.
    Jason, Damian, Dick and cass were groomed, trained destined/chosen ones
    Cass was to be a main body guard for the Demon's head
    Dick is the Gray Son
    jason was introduced to the All caste
    Damian was supposed to be the next Alexander the Great
    Most of them have died and come back
    3 have shitty mums

    They have things in common but not anymore so than other batkids when you stop and think about it.

    All the Bat kids are violent and 4 of them have killed [cass, damian, jason and Dick]

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