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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgoth View Post
    "To prove a point".
    I really hope all of that is just misleading.
    I hope so too.
    Maybe Emiko is thinking about Damian saying that they didn't go far enough at the end of TT 41.
    If whatever she found is connected to Damian it would make sense for her to come to that conclusion.

    I'm not too worried yet tho. Emiko says someone wanted them to find the evidence. So someone planting evidence that points to Damian or even Heretic trying to blame this all on his clone/twin is still possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ansa View Post
    I hope so too.
    Maybe Emiko is thinking about Damian saying that they didn't go far enough at the end of TT 41.
    If whatever she found is connected to Damian it would make sense for her to come to that conclusion.

    I'm not too worried yet tho. Emiko says someone wanted them to find the evidence. So someone planting evidence that points to Damian or even Heretic trying to blame this all on his clone/twin is still possible.
    Damian being the killer feels like a blatant red herring, I'll be shocked if the writer goes through with it. It's not like there isn't a shortage of people who would want to frame Damian roaming around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by king81992 View Post
    Damian being the killer feels like a blatant red herring, I'll be shocked if the writer goes through with it. It's not like there isn't a shortage of people who would want to frame Damian roaming around.
    I agree. When we only had the solicitations for 43 and 44 and the annual got pushed back to August I thought that after the prison and the brainwashing it wouldn't be impossible for DC to be that careless with Damian's character.
    But after looking at the updated cover for 42 and reading the issue I felt like this was too much bait.
    When the cover and the first two pages of a story try to frame a character that hard, but the writer still refuses to admit that he did it something is fishy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by king81992 View Post
    It's not like there isn't a shortage of people who would want to frame Damian roaming around.
    Yep, he pissed of enough people.
    As long as there is no camera footage and no witnesses and fingerprints the Heretic would have an easy game. He is Damian's clone, so all he has to do is kill people that Damian has a reason to kill, leave DNA evidence and most people would be convinced Damian did it. Except for Damian of course.
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    Judging by this, Damian can somehow join The WildC.A.T.s. Maybe that's the plan for him after Teen Titans, since Grifter set to have some important role in Gotham after The Joker War, just as Damian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgoth View Post
    Judging by this, Damian can somehow join The WildC.A.T.s. Maybe that's the plan for him after Teen Titans, since Grifter set to have some important role in Gotham after The Joker War, just as Damian.
    That idea was rejected though.

    The original idea for villainizing Damian is probably to make him leave the Bat fam in preparation for 5G where Superman had to look for him to save Batman's daughter (Helena when BatCat plan was still canon) as written in Doomsday Clock, but now that 5G is relegated to an alternate timeline, yet they're still going down this path, I wonder if they're simply finishing up on stories that are already written but planned to turn it around in the end.

    Even if they end up using the Wildcat idea, Damian is in the team with Bruce so they're not separating or antagonistic anymore.

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    He won't be antagonist, absolutely. At least because WB won't let them to do it, lol. With 5G it would be possible, but now it's out of question and Tynion is bringing him back.
    The original idea for villainizing Damian is probably to make him leave the Bat fam in preparation for 5G where Superman had to look for him to save Batman's daughter (Helena when BatCat plan was still canon) as written in Doomsday Clock, but now that 5G is relegated to an alternate timeline, yet they're still going down this path, I wonder if they're simply finishing up on stories that are already written but planned to turn it around in the end.
    It was opposite. Superman would join forces with Helena to save Damian. I guess, that would not be Clark, but Jon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Restingvoice View Post
    That idea was rejected though.

    The original idea for villainizing Damian is probably to make him leave the Bat fam in preparation for 5G where Superman had to look for him to save Batman's daughter (Helena when BatCat plan was still canon) as written in Doomsday Clock, but now that 5G is relegated to an alternate timeline, yet they're still going down this path, I wonder if they're simply finishing up on stories that are already written but planned to turn it around in the end.

    Even if they end up using the Wildcat idea, Damian is in the team with Bruce so they're not separating or antagonistic anymore.
    I don't know why so many people think Doomsday Clock was talking about a new Helena, the bit about having to save Damian was set in 2026. She would have been what, six?
    Earth 2 Helena makes more sense.

    And even then I kinda doubt the future that was presented there was ever supposed to become true. That's not how DC works.
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    Iíll be honest, the better Supersons moment was over in Hope at worlds end #5 today....and also Damianís mother.
    "It's fun and it's cool, so that's all that matters. It's what comics are for, Duh."
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sifighter View Post
    I’ll be honest, the better Supersons moment was over in Hope at worlds end #5 today....and also Damian’s mother.
    Haven't looked at TT 43 yet, but from what I heard it's not good.
    Hope at World's End and Gotham Nights 13 were both really enjoyable though.
    Sadly out of continuity Damian stories being much better than what we get in main continuity has been the case for some time now

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    Yeah, I guess you won't like TT 43.
    DCeased is awesome.

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    I really enjoyed Hope in World's end 5!

    Damian, Jon and Cassie working together was awesome! and I loved Damian's interactions with the other characters who appeared!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katana500 View Post
    I really enjoyed Hope in World's end 5!

    Damian, Jon and Cassie working together was awesome! and I loved Damian's interactions with the other characters who appeared!
    Yeah. Damian was pretty good in this issue.

    He has even gotten a Robin.

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    So I read Teen Titans, it really seems like all roads is heading on Damian going down a evil path soon. From the teases in legion of superheroes comparing him hitler and we know the events from this book will affect what's happening in Tynion's Batman run...

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    I think DC want to push Damian into Batman666 storyline. The Book of Damned is still on Damian's possession and it says that on 14 years old he will makes a contract with devil for power to protect innocent people CMIIW.

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