Damian Wayne: Robin Appreciation 2020

[Digifiend]

That was for the best, long term. Steph eventually became Batgirl anyway, and if Tim had been Blue Beetle we probably wouldn't have Jaime Reyes.

[Morgoth]

DC wants a Robin again (because it is a popular brand), but they also want to have Batman as a "solitary" hero. So, Robin should be more independent to get it.

Well, here's another advantage is that Batman always has several titles, where he can be interpreted in different ways. King doesn't care about all of his relationships except Selina - he wrote Batman mostly with her, while Tynion wrote him with Tim, Stephanie, Kate and the others, because he likes Batfamily. It was the same with Snyder, while he was writing his, Tomasi and Morrison were writing about his relationship with Damian, because he's not interested in father-son relationship (and also wanted to make Duke Robin).
Regarding Tim, editorial just for some reason thinks he can be only Robin, not anyone else. If Damian indeed will get his "graduation" and join Dick and Jason, it will be actually sad, if they won't let Tim to move forward, like them.

[Rebeca Armus]

Tim shouldn't at least be more emotional independent?
He looks pretty needy of love and atention for me (that don't know to much about him), I can't see why DC would want to create a more independent Robin that wants love that his own parents didn't given to him and try to find this in Batman/Bruce whon he admires and replace Robin.
Thinking about this idea of a independent Robin Duke fill more the perfil, (don't like the idea of Duke being Robin for much time, he is more independent).

[Rebeca Armus]

Well, here's another advantage is that Batman always has several titles, where he can be interpreted in different ways. King doesn't care about all of his relationships except Selina - he wrote Batman mostly with her, while Tynion wrote him with Tim, Stephanie, Kate and the others, because he likes Batfamily. It was the same with Snyder, while he was writing his, Tomasi and Morrison were writing about his relationship with Damian, because he's not interested in father-son relationship (and also wanted to make Duke Robin).
Regarding Tim, editorial just for some reason thinks he can be only Robin, not anyone else. If Damian indeed will get his "graduation" and join Dick and Jason, it will be actually sad, if they won't let Tim to move forward, like them.

I have a thing about what is going to happen, because Damian is 13 and WB maybe want to keep him, but Jason was assassinated with 13-14, Damian have been already dead and in movie/comics of future Damian is in LoA. Maybe DC wants to make Damian a little like Loki, that is always lost about what path follow, but Loki is much more old than Damian, would be sad if Damian need to deal with all by himself, but , again, Jason was killed with 13-14 and he became a anti-hero being 17(?

[Jackalope89]

I have a thing about what is going to happen, because Damian is 13 and WB maybe want to keep him, but Jason was assassinated with 13-14, Damian have been already dead and in movie/comics of future Damian is in LoA. Maybe DC wants to make Damian a little like Loki, that is always lost about what path follow, but Loki is much more old than Damian, would be sad if Damian need to deal with all by himself, but , again, Jason was killed with 13-14 and he became a anti-hero being 17(?

Jason was killed at 15.

[Rebeca Armus]

Jason was killed at 15.

and he came back with 17? or 18?

[redmax99]

Jason was killed at 15.

actually jason was 13 before all the retcons. back when war games happen they said jason was 18 while tim just had his 16 birthday and fans were confused because they were both 13 at the time of jason death at least they should have been a year apart not 2.

as for every blaming dc for batmn needs a robin line well it was the truth. jim starlin got fired for killing jason, wb had toys to sell with batman and robin and a new movie coming out and batman without robin at the time really didn't sell. stop looking at the 90's an 2000's and remember batman wasn't always so popular.

[Jackalope89]

actually jason was 13 before all the retcons. back when war games happen they said jason was 18 while tim just had his 16 birthday and fans were confused because they were both 13 at the time of jason death at least they should have been a year apart not 2.

as for every blaming dc for batmn needs a robin line well it was the truth. jim starlin got fired for killing jason, wb had toys to sell with batman and robin and a new movie coming out and batman without robin at the time really didn't sell. stop looking at the 90's an 2000's and remember batman wasn't always so popular.

[Aahz]

That:s not form the comics (and imo not really canon), and the height and weight makes no sense.

[Blue22]

That:s not form the comics (and imo not really canon), and the height and weight makes no sense.

Oh how off could it possibly-YEP! Yeah that's...uh....all kinds of not right lol

[Jackalope89]

Oh how off could it possibly-YEP! Yeah that's...uh....all kinds of not right lol

Surprisingly hard to find the full death certificate of Jason's from the comics. Only been able to find the top part.

[Digifiend]

Oh how off could it possibly-YEP! Yeah that's...uh....all kinds of not right lol

Less than seven stone? That'd be severely underweight for a 15 year old, definitely. Height should probably be over five feet too. Those details sound more like... a 10 year old?

What's that from anyway?

[Aahz]

What's that from anyway?

The Batman Files

Jasons stats on the Death certificate are actually from a who is who entry, but I think when it was written Jason was supposed to be way younger then 15. In other profiles from the time he is taller, and iirc the only comic were he is actually drawn that tiny is his origin.

In DitF he reaches roughly to Bruce shoulder so he would be roughly 5'4''.

[Rebeca Armus]

Tim's story starts in Batman 440 I think [also read new TT #60, #61] then you need the Robin solo's and his mini's

thanks <3 I will search

[Rebeca Armus]

The Batman Files

Jasons stats on the Death certificate are actually from a who is who entry, but I think when it was written Jason was supposed to be way younger then 15. In other profiles from the time he is taller, and iirc the only comic were he is actually drawn that tiny is his origin.

In DitF he reaches roughly to Bruce shoulder so he would be roughly 5'4''.

So this certificate is with the wrong age or the wrong Jason's size, right?

I would really like the characters, regardless of the artist, to keep the same size difference.