It's not about Damian forgiving him. I wish Bruce would start thinking about all the crap he put his family through and it would be nice if the others would start calling him out too. I want to see a better Batman.
That's never going to happen though.
And as I said in a previous post: I'm sick of depressing stories and I'm sick of everything getting destroyed instead of built.
5G doesn't sound exciting, sometimes I ask myself why I'm still sticking around.
Last edited by Ansa; 01-17-2020 at 01:07 PM.
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Which is another failure on Bruce's part. Damian is Bruce;s responsibility not Dick's.
The thing is that it's down to the writer of TT for deciding to go in this direction. They could have written Damian's crisis and Bruce's character better but they went in this direction on purpose. They wanted to write this story.
The involvement of other writers e.g Priest and Tomasi lead me to believe that editorial approved it.
It makes it hard to 100% feel pissed at Bruce since we have so many versions which contradict each other.
After Metal and all the emphasis it placed on how much his kids mean to Bruce. So much that he's love, loss and regret at loving them so much resulted in 3 evil Batmen. Was the reason why the BatGod could trap him for so long and was the key to old Bruce who had given up finding the strength to break out of the Lotus machine thingy.
I'm struggling to fully view Bruce as harshly as I should just based on TT.
unpopular opinion I can see where those who blame the family for Batman being written as unlikable get that idea but it's on the creatives and those in charge. I'm more pissed at them.
Trying to come at this as objectivly as poss to stop me being so annoyed.
Last edited by dietrich; 01-17-2020 at 06:55 PM.
Batman is an anti hero at best, at worst he's a broken 'hero' who can't save anyone.
The problem is that DC refuses to admit that Batman is an anti hero because that would involve taking responsibility for all the sketchy decisions they've made regarding his character and reconsider the possibility that making him the center of their universe( Doomsday Clock would have readers believe it's Superman, but readers know otherwise) was a terrible idea.
I know some people thing Djinn's going to die but I actually think it's going to be Roundhouse. It makes more sense from a story perspective so he can finally fully redeem himself and Djinn's character is still needed for the romantic subplot. Also, Djinn's story is about finding out who she is as a person and getting her own identity. I highly doubt Glass would kill her off before allowing the character to have that growth. But death allows Roundhouse to have some sort of redemption and die a hero. If you think about it his death was foreshadowed in the earliest issues of this run. I am not worried about Djinn I think from a plot standpoint it's clear Roundhouse is going to die. Also Glass seems to be taking inspiration from older Teen Titans runs and Terra the first Judas in Teen Titans history doesn't make it out alive.
Last edited by shadow6743; 01-17-2020 at 06:16 PM.
See I know that and I've always known that but for whatever reason I always saw this arc leading to Damian sees/is made to see that he's going about this the wrong way, learn his lesson and grow from this. Perhaps he opens up some more sharing the emotions and feelings that we haven't really seen him express through out this run.
That's how I saw it and suddenly I'm reminded that that's not how it usually goes.
I was looking forward to this but now I'm just annoyed at the very likely outcome that this is going to be one sided and key factors ignored.
Good Bruce
Metal
Dceased
Green Arrow
Taylor's Tec
Superman
Supersons
Shadow/Batman
Batman/TMNT
Bad Bruce
Rebirth Tec
Nightwing
King's Batman
Titans
RHATO
TT
HIC
That's all I can think of. might be missing some. The rest are neutral or too subjective though I thought BB, Deathstroke and Outsiders are fine. [went for whole runs rather than issues]
As I said I'm trying to look at thing's objectively to ease my annoyance. I'm not really expecting to change anyone's mind
Last edited by dietrich; 01-17-2020 at 07:13 PM.
Yeah Glass is leaving but he created Roundhouse as this traitor character and I can't see anything else set up for him other than trying to give the character redemption for what he did to team through his death. I mean that makes sense to me especially since he is the reason Djinn is in this situation in the first place. Glass has set up things for Djinn that can go beyond Djinn War but Roundhouse not so much. Djinn war is his last arc from what I heard so I think he is going to kill Roundhouse at end of that arc.