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    I wonder if they had to start eating Laura for food in the vault ? Wonder what they did for water or going to the bathroom?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pkingdom View Post
    I know science in comic books is.....bad, but the idea they just doubled the X chromosome from Logan to make Laura makes for some hilariously bad science. It would be like breaking a statue in half, and trying to 'fix' it using two copies of the top half. The explanation with her mom is closer to something that might actually work.
    Not, really.

    The functions of chromosomes in chromosome pairs are interchangeable, with each one randomly expressing itself in each given cell. It's more like cutting a statue in half lengthwise and repairing it by mirroring the existing half.

    Admittedly the XY chromosome have some unique characteristics to them, and I'm sure an actual geneticist could speculate on all the weird and horrifying things this could result in, but on a surface level it works.
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    X-23's most basic surface level characteristic that any idiot should grasp: Stoicism.
    I don't demand that her every minor appearance be a nuance in-depth examination of her character, but is it to much to ask she be written in Archetype?! This is storytelling 101! If you want people to stay invested in a character, you need to, at the bare minimum, write them such a way that they can plausibly be believed to be the same character!

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    The other thing to remember is that the X and Y chromosomes comprise only a single pair out of the TWENTY-THREE pairs of chromosomes that make up a human being. You literally cannot grow a human being JUST from the XY or XX pair, but would need an entire — intact — genetic code to create a viable clone OR to artificially inseminate an viable egg cell. So if Logan's sample was degraded across the board there still needs to be a source of valid DNA to repair the remainder of the code.
    Still hoping for that Helix Reunion...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dthirds3 View Post
    I wonder if they had to start eating Laura for food in the vault ? Wonder what they did for water or going to the bathroom?
    All Synch needs to due is copy Darwin's powers to adapt and survive and he'll be fine. No need to result to cannibalism.

    IF anything Laura is the weak link. Who knows how long her healing factor can sustain her in the hypertime of the vault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ambaryerno View Post
    The other thing to remember is that the X and Y chromosomes comprise only a single pair out of the TWENTY-THREE pairs of chromosomes that make up a human being. You literally cannot grow a human being JUST from the XY or XX pair, but would need an entire — intact — genetic code to create a viable clone OR to artificially inseminate an viable egg cell. So if Logan's sample was degraded across the board there still needs to be a source of valid DNA to repair the remainder of the code.
    Again, they were reconstructing the damaged parts, on there most basic level, to the genome they had on record; not just plugging the gaps with DNA.

    Sure you could add in a scene where Sarah says "%$#@ it! This is taking to long! It's only 0.5%, and is not going to effect anything relevant!", then stab herself in the finger; and it wouldn't be particularly disruptive to the established narrative, but that would be neither necessary for her origin to make sense or reflective of the methods they were applying.

    But this digression into real world science is again, not really relevant, in a universe where basically all the science does not hold up to surface level scrutiny. The narrative needs to make sense, the science does not.
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    Context is king.

    X-23's most basic surface level characteristic that any idiot should grasp: Stoicism.
    I don't demand that her every minor appearance be a nuance in-depth examination of her character, but is it to much to ask she be written in Archetype?! This is storytelling 101! If you want people to stay invested in a character, you need to, at the bare minimum, write them such a way that they can plausibly be believed to be the same character!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nazrel View Post
    Again, they were reconstructing the damaged parts, on there most basic level, to the genome they had on record; not just plugging the gaps with DNA.

    Sure you could add in a scene where Sarah says "%$#@ it! This is taking to long! It's only 0.5%, and is not going to effect anything relevant!", then stab herself in the finger; and it wouldn't be particularly disruptive to the established narrative, but that would be neither necessary for her origin to make sense or reflective of the methods they were applying.

    But this digression into real world science is again, not really relevant, in a universe where basically all the science does not hold up to surface level scrutiny. The narrative needs to make sense, the science does not.
    And you don't need that scene for it to make sense, either. The DNA needed to be repaired. They needed to repair from something (it's not enough to know WHAT the sequence is, but you need the physical material to go with it. And you're assuming they even HAD Logan's complete genetic sequence on file to compare to). It takes literally nothing for someone to put 2+2 together and decide Sarah used herself. That's exactly why it's been fanon for so long in the FIRST place.

    IIRC, there's not even anywhere in Innocence Lost OR Target X that explicitly say that Laura's genetics are 100% Logan. We only know that Rice and Sutter WANTED it that way and were blocking any effort by Sarah to propose alternatives to make it actually WORK (which is why she basically had to force their hand with the viable female embryo in the FIRST place).
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    Still hoping for that Helix Reunion...

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