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    Neat, Robbie is on there!

    And Gabby not being there is a bit odd, because they explicitly said Honey Badger was part of their Champions network in the first issue of Volume 3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumpyshark View Post
    Though this is a variant cover, it's still noteworthy that X-23 (but not Gabby) feature on this Outlawed cover: https://www.marvel.com/articles/comi...-variant-cover



    X-23, Franklin Richards, Molly Hayes and Bombshell are the mutants (Squirrel Girl no longer counting), assuming that Bombshell still counts as a mutant in the 616. But X-23 is the only one firmly associated with the X-Men.
    Not sure if I'm reading into this cover and article too much, but it seems to imply Laura is a teenage vigilante.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shampoozie View Post
    Not sure if I'm reading into this cover and article too much, but it seems to imply Laura is a teenage vigilante.
    Well, Laura has had a rebellious streak throughout her life. Like her father, she does tend to run off and do her own thing on a whim. She's doing that right now with Fallen Angels. I can totally see her getting involved in this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumpyshark View Post
    Though this is a variant cover, it's still noteworthy that X-23 (but not Gabby) feature on this Outlawed cover: https://www.marvel.com/articles/comi...-variant-cover



    X-23, Franklin Richards, Molly Hayes and Bombshell are the mutants (Squirrel Girl no longer counting), assuming that Bombshell still counts as a mutant in the 616. But X-23 is the only one firmly associated with the X-Men.
    I thought Krakoa would make a deal with USA for the mutant teens but it seems they will have to pledge to the law too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shampoozie View Post
    Not sure if I'm reading into this cover and article too much, but it seems to imply Laura is a teenage vigilante.
    No the premise of Outlawed is basically superheroes have to be over the age of 21 and apparently they are some restrictions in place if you are not 21. The cover implies Laura is one of the heroes under 21 and they mentioned articles talking about Outlawed even some heroes above 21 would be affected by this event.

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    Laura being 21 when characters like Scott and Jean are still supposed to be 30 at max never made sense. Weirdly it happens with all the teen heroes. Marvel allows most of them to be called 20+ adults after a few years of creation like they had forgotten that they're still trying to keep their '60s heroes young.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiccan View Post
    Laura being 21 when characters like Scott and Jean are still supposed to be 30 at max never made sense. Weirdly it happens with all the teen heroes. Marvel allows most of them to be called 20+ adults after a few years of creation like they had forgotten that they're still trying to keep their '60s heroes young.
    It always felt weird for me that they let her grow up so fast, since it's going to be an issue in the future.

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    Laura's NOT 21 though. An issue of All-New Wolverine had Old Man Logan complain that Laura didn't have any beer in her apartment... because she's too young to buy alcohol. If it wasn't for the fact that she should be on Krakoa, it wouldn't be a surprise that Laura would be involved in Outlawed, as the law against superheroes under 21 does apply to her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digifiend View Post
    Laura's NOT 21 though. An issue of All-New Wolverine had Old Man Logan complain that Laura didn't have any beer in her apartment... because she's too young to buy alcohol. If it wasn't for the fact that she should be on Krakoa, it wouldn't be a surprise that Laura would be involved in Outlawed, as the law against superheroes under 21 does apply to her.
    You forgot her birthday in Tamaki's book. If she was 20 in ANW, then that would have been her 21st.

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    ANW never said her exact age, only that she was too young to drink.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digifiend View Post
    ANW never said her exact age, only that she was too young to drink.
    Daken said she was cloned "twenty years ago" during Orphans of X, which means she was either 19 or 20 in ANW depending on whether he's referring to her "conception" or birth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ambaryerno View Post
    Daken said she was cloned "twenty years ago" during Orphans of X, which means she was either 19 or 20 in ANW depending on whether he's referring to her "conception" or birth.
    Could have just been a ballpark estimate, rather then an exact literal amount; people often round to the nearest 10.
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    X-23's most basic surface level characteristic that any idiot should grasp: Stoicism.
    I don't demand that her every minor appearance be a nuance in-depth examination of her character, but is it to much to ask she be written in Archetype?! This is storytelling 101! If you want people to stay invested in a character, you need to, at the bare minimum, write them such a way that they can plausibly be believed to be the same character!

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    ANW seemed to age her up unnaturally, so much so that she seemed to leave behind all her old contemporaries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucius121 View Post
    ANW seemed to age her up unnaturally, so much so that she seemed to leave behind all her old contemporaries.
    Her leaving behind her contemporaries had nothing to do with her being aged up; leaving behind characters she'd built meaningful relationships with has been a problem with the character for awhile.

    Her being aged up in itself is a good thing, as it means no more shoe horning her into "Teen" books she is grossly unsuited for.
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    Context is king.

    X-23's most basic surface level characteristic that any idiot should grasp: Stoicism.
    I don't demand that her every minor appearance be a nuance in-depth examination of her character, but is it to much to ask she be written in Archetype?! This is storytelling 101! If you want people to stay invested in a character, you need to, at the bare minimum, write them such a way that they can plausibly be believed to be the same character!

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    pretty weird She is almost the same age as Kitty

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