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    Quote Originally Posted by Godlike13 View Post
    Dick was often juvenile in Grayson. Annoying the hell out of his partners.
    Yeah, but there it felt like it served more of a purpose and he was around people who he was, in one way or another, supposed to be antagonistic too because they were working different angles.

    With Babs it just felt unnecessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Yeah, but there it felt like it served more of a purpose and he was around people who he was, in one way or another, supposed to be antagonistic too because they were working different angles.

    With Babs it just felt unnecessary.
    Yeah it felt immature but also fit the tone of the book, but also a little weird bus he knows luke

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    He does?
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    Anyone pick up the oracle code today?
    Books I’m pulling: Justice League Dark, Batman and the, Outsiders, Suicide squad, Daredevil, Tynion’s Batman, X-men, X-force, Marauders, Hellions, X-Factor, Three Jokers, Deceased Dead Planet

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    Isn't that next week?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godlike13 View Post
    Isn't that next week?
    My comic shop had it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChaosIncarnate View Post
    My comic shop had it.
    The graphic novels come out about a week before the Amazon date for comic shops.

    I read it. The art was really nice, though it didn't really look like Babs - but that was kind of the problem with the writing for her character, too.
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    Hmm, My shop didn’t have it. I’m gonna have to track one down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by millernumber1 View Post
    The graphic novels come out about a week before the Amazon date for comic shops.

    I read it. The art was really nice, though it didn't really look like Babs - but that was kind of the problem with the writing for her character, too.
    That sounds concerning...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    That sounds concerning...
    Just my reading. I hope others connect to it - more Oracle is good, in my opinion!
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    Quote Originally Posted by millernumber1 View Post
    Just my reading. I hope others connect to it - more Oracle is good, in my opinion!
    I very much agree

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    I didn’t really like it overall. It felt like it could have been a book starring any random character, and it likely could have worked the same. The art was nice, at least.
    Books I’m pulling: Justice League Dark, Batman and the, Outsiders, Suicide squad, Daredevil, Tynion’s Batman, X-men, X-force, Marauders, Hellions, X-Factor, Three Jokers, Deceased Dead Planet

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    Quote Originally Posted by millernumber1 View Post
    The graphic novels come out about a week before the Amazon date for comic shops.

    I read it. The art was really nice, though it didn't really look like Babs - but that was kind of the problem with the writing for her character, too.
    That doesn't seems good.

    Quote Originally Posted by millernumber1 View Post
    Just my reading. I hope others connect to it - more Oracle is good, in my opinion!
    I'm the one who think Barbara should have stayed Oracle, so my opinion doesn't count: it is too biased.

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    Just read The Oracle Code, and I'm impressed.

    First, you have to realise that this is a different Babs. She has never been Batgirl. She never went to college. This is a Babs less than half the age, and with a world less experience, than the one we saw in "Oracle: Year One—Born of Hope". But this Babs carries just as much determination, anger, grief, and conflicted emotions as she does in that story. I don't have my own experience of trauma recovery or disability, but the way Babs's mental trauma informs the way she sees her own body, and the way people far too often are socialised to treat disabled people, feels very powerful and true. I imagine more people than just kids with disabilities can relate to the way Jim Gordon wants what is best for his daughter, but is unable to understand her in her new body, and the way it drives the two of them apart.

    The Arkham Center for Independence is basically Arkham Asylum, but with children and scarier than most mainline writers manages. In a way, it echoes the way too much of the environment for disabled people works in reality, where places that should be accessible often aren't. It is a space for abled bodies, modified in the least possible way.

    Art is great. This is probably the most colourful album of the Ink series so far in order of number of colours used, but still it conforms to the "house style", since only a few colours are used on each page. The colours also highlights Babs's social and emotional isolation, and as she gains friends and confidence in her new body more parts of the pages gains colour.

    The mystery element of the story is probably the weakest part. Especially the way the puzzle pieces from stories connect with the actual problems that Babs solves feel rather tacked on.
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    After 2 canceled orders I finally got my Oracle Code. It’s was ok, I don’t know. I still like the whole when it comes to Oracle if you know what I mean. I also think her already being a hacker kind of skips part of the journey. Other then that it wasn’t bad. It was an interesting new perspective and the art was cool. Though shame no glasses.
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