Cassandra Cain: Batgirl/Orphan Appreciation 2020

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From what I recall she was first living with Barbara, then when Batman placed her in her own Batcave (IIRC she wasn't able to keep up a civilian identity), then she moved to Blüdheaven with Tim, and then the OYL mess happend.
I don't remember were she stayed between her "evil phase" and Hongkong.

She might have lived at the manor at some point, and I might just have forgotten about it, but that can't have been longer than just for a couple of issues.

No, she was first in Batman and the Outsiders for a few issues, where it was confirmed that Bat

Your phone battery ran out? ^^

Ah ok, so continuing where I left off...

you know what, it's easier to check the wiki...

"Batman and the Outsiders
Cassandra retakes the Batgirl mantle to join the Outsiders at Batman's request.[22] She moves into the team's apartment but does not show much desire to socialize with her teammates.

Batgirl (2008)
After Batman is found, Cassandra moves into Wayne Manor, on the trail of father and Deathstroke.

Tim gives Cassandra a copy of her old costume and tells her that if she chooses to stay and fight crime in Hong Kong, he hopes she will do it while wearing a Bat-symbol.[8]

Once the Architect is defeated and captured, Cassandra decides to stay in Gotham rather than return to Hong Kong.[26]

Cassandra later infiltrates a tournament for hired killers and rescues Red Robin, who had been captured and was about to be sexually assaulted by the half-sister of Ra's al Ghul.

The two then travel to Hong Kong in order to catch a 10-year-old assassin known as the Cricket but are easily defeated."

It sounds like she's still based in Gotham but still travels around, and her last dwelling is the Manor.

Wait I forget about Convergence. She's in Gotham with Tim and Steph, and stays in an apartment together with them? I forget. Since that's meant to be the continuation, that should be the last benchmark.

[Frontier]

A famous orphan taking in other orphans of crimes is more heart warming than perverted

Cass really has no civilian ID or life. A playboy showing up with an attractive young woman who, as best the media can tell, didn't exist until she suddenly appeared in Wayne Manor, would look odd, yes.

The general public would probably not see much of her, I would assume.

[The Cool Thatguy]

The general public would probably not see much of her, I would assume.

They don't see much of the other sons all things considered.

But they know they exist, and Bruce can only avoid the media 24/7

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Your phone battery ran out? ^^

Ah ok, so continuing where I left off...

you know what, it's easier to check the wiki...

"Batman and the Outsiders
Cassandra retakes the Batgirl mantle to join the Outsiders at Batman's request.[22] She moves into the team's apartment but does not show much desire to socialize with her teammates.

Batgirl (2008)
After Batman is found, Cassandra moves into Wayne Manor, on the trail of father and Deathstroke.

Tim gives Cassandra a copy of her old costume and tells her that if she chooses to stay and fight crime in Hong Kong, he hopes she will do it while wearing a Bat-symbol.[8]

Once the Architect is defeated and captured, Cassandra decides to stay in Gotham rather than return to Hong Kong.[26]

Cassandra later infiltrates a tournament for hired killers and rescues Red Robin, who had been captured and was about to be sexually assaulted by the half-sister of Ra's al Ghul.

The two then travel to Hong Kong in order to catch a 10-year-old assassin known as the Cricket but are easily defeated."

It sounds like she's still based in Gotham but still travels around, and her last dwelling is the Manor.

Wait I forget about Convergence. She's in Gotham with Tim and Steph, and stays in an apartment together with them? I forget. Since that's meant to be the continuation, that should be the last benchmark.

In the beginning of Convergence, Steph is sharing an apartment with Cass who still goes on patrol with Tim at night. At the end of the mini all three seem to be sharing the apartment much to Cass's dislike (since she could tell what they wanted and was like, "EW!"

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In the beginning of Convergence, Steph is sharing an apartment with Cass who still goes on patrol with Tim at night. At the end of the mini all three seem to be sharing the apartment much to Cass's dislike (since she could tell what they wanted and was like, "EW!"

I like that. I like Cass and Steph living together.

Has she ever have a confrontation with The Joker? What does she think of him?

[Jackalope89]

I like that. I like Cass and Steph living together.

Has she ever have a confrontation with The Joker? What does she think of him?

Probably something along the lines of, "Creepy clown dude that no one would bat an eye over if he kicked the bucket," or something like that. As for encounters... No idea. Perhaps the only Robin (however brief) to never really go up against the deranged clown.

[Frontier]

I like that. I like Cass and Steph living together.

Has she ever have a confrontation with The Joker? What does she think of him?

I believe there was an encounter where Cass couldn't read Joker because he was too unpredictable.

[millernumber1]

I believe there was an encounter where Cass couldn't read Joker because he was too unpredictable.

Correct - in the DC First: Batgirl special: https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/DC_First:.../Joker_Vol_1_1

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I believe there was an encounter where Cass couldn't read Joker because he was too unpredictable.

Psychologically, right? because if it's physical then I call bull because even if he's random, he still has the speed of a human being, and Cass has a bullet reaction time, so unless he's The Flash, Cass could still read when he's about to attack.

[Jackalope89]

Psychologically, right? because if it's physical then I call bull because even if he's random, he still has the speed of a human being, and Cass has a bullet reaction time, so unless he's The Flash, Cass could still read when he's about to attack.

Its the same ability that allows Batman to beat the Justice League single-handedly; plot armor.

[Frontier]

Psychologically, right? because if it's physical then I call bull because even if he's random, he still has the speed of a human being, and Cass has a bullet reaction time, so unless he's The Flash, Cass could still read when he's about to attack.

I dunno, the amount of times Joker's been able to get the drop on Batman, he might just physically be off enough. I mean, the guy's body has survived a dip in some serious chemicals, that's probably not a normal human body.

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Correct - in the DC First: Batgirl special: https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/DC_First:.../Joker_Vol_1_1

She also fought him with Jean-Paul Valley during No Man's Land. It was right after her debut, and the Joker had them fight a dupe before he showed up. Jean Paul then mocked the Joker saying he was another one in the issue forcing him to leave in disgust at the two.

[Blight]

Dexter Soy just posted a preview page of next week's issue of B&O and mom/daughter have a talk it looks like. If Shiva mentions how screwed Cass has gotten (i.e. not getting a bat symbol) and will be a better mother. Dammit I'm game for this.

[Dthirds3]

Dexter Soy just posted a preview page of next week's issue of B&O and mom/daughter have a talk it looks like. If Shiva mentions how screwed Cass has gotten (i.e. not getting a bat symbol) and will be a better mother. Dammit I'm game for this.

That is literally the next page

[The Cool Thatguy]

Dexter Soy just posted a preview page of next week's issue of B&O and mom/daughter have a talk it looks like. If Shiva mentions how screwed Cass has gotten (i.e. not getting a bat symbol) and will be a better mother. Dammit I'm game for this.

I wanna like it, but I'm tired of Cass being struck with Shiva. And Outsiders is treading water in every way possible.