Steve Rogers: Captain America Appreciation 2020

[taozen]

The old school Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe Captain America Entry:

[tg1982]

Didn't even read it. Saw it on Twitter and like Mr Fabian Nicieza, promptly unfollowed CBR. Don't need that BS in my life

Yeah, you made the right choice. I only clicked it because I thought it was just a click bait title, but might have had an interesting perspective. Nope. I’ll spare you the details, but you know when they use the sentence “fetishization of hyper-masculine” you know it’s complete garbage.

I found the article hugely offensive and I'm not from the USA. In fact I took time out of my day to email CBR and recommend that they issue a public apology in regards to it. Won't hold my breath though

Yeah, I’ll be surprised if they even mention it, let alone apologize for it.

[Immortal Weapon]

Yeah, you made the right choice. I only clicked it because I thought it was just a click bait title, but might have had an interesting perspective. Nope. I’ll spare you the details, but you know when they use the sentence “fetishization of hyper-masculine” you know it’s complete garbage.



Yeah, I’ll be surprised if they even mention it, let alone apologize for it.

The most offensive thing about the article is how it encourages a defeatist attitude. Steve should have found another way to support the war other than being a frontline soldier.

[tg1982]

The most offensive thing about the article is how it encourages a defeatist attitude. Steve should have found another way to support the war other than being a frontline soldier.

I totally agree.

One of my favorite things about Steve is his determination. He didn’t give up. And in both the MCU and 616 universe, it’s that very trait that impressed Erskine enough to qualify him for the preliminary tests.

[K7P5V]

One of my all-time favorite moments between Cap & Doom (from ASM (V.2) #50):



Cap secretly disguised as Doom's security escort. Straczynski's sense of humor was most enjoyable.

[Huntsman Spider]

One of my all-time favorite moments between Cap & Doom (from ASM (V.2) #50):



Cap secretly disguised as Doom's security escort. Straczynski's sense of humor was most enjoyable.

Yeah, that was a pretty funny moment, followed later by a truly heartwarming one where after Spider-Man tried to introduce Mary Jane to Captain America as "a friend," Cap took Spidey aside and gently advised him that just because he had a mask over his face, he shouldn't let it hide his heart.

[capandkirby]

Captain America #130 by Stan Lee, art Gene Colan

[Huntsman Spider]

Captain America #130 by Stan Lee, art Gene Colan

Preach it, Captain.

[K7P5V]

One of my all-time favorite superhero theme songs:

[Huntsman Spider]

One of my all-time favorite superhero theme songs:

When Captain America hurls his mighty shield, those who oppose him must yield!

[Hypestyle]

One of my all-time favorite superhero theme songs:

Does the MCU acknowledge these cartoons as having been produced in the 1960s when MCU Cap was still asleep?

[tg1982]

Does the MCU acknowledge these cartoons as having been produced in the 1960s when MCU Cap was still asleep?

Stan Lee wrote Avengers #4 The issue that has Cap awakening from the ice in 1963. This cartoon appears to be made in 1966. So it’s possible it’s in continuity, I believe the cartoon is just old comics though. So I suppose it would depend on when the comics depicted in the cartoon were written.

[super curry max]

Question!

Is the current cap the actual cap or a Kubik created fake and hydra cap that was in custody at the end of secret empire is the imposter. Or do I have that backwards.

I thought kubik transferred main "true" caps mind into a new body. But someone had me doubting that.

[capandkirby]

Question!

Is the current cap the actual cap or a Kubik created fake and hydra cap that was in custody at the end of secret empire is the imposter. Or do I have that backwards.

I thought kubik transferred main "true" caps mind into a new body. But someone had me doubting that.

According to both Ta-Nehisi Coates in the current Cap run and Mark Waid from the History of the Marvel Universe series, the current Cap is the real Cap and Hydra!Cap was a copy.

Here are panels...

[capandkirby]

According to both Ta-Nehisi Coates in the current Cap run and Mark Waid from the History of the Marvel Universe series, the current Cap is the real Cap and Hydra!Cap was a copy.

Here are panels...

Although, honestly, and I think this every single time this question comes up, asking who is the 'real' version of ANY character is splitting hairs at this point because EVERYONE in the 616 with the exception of like two characters, is a copy of a copy. And some characters, like Tony Stark, are a copy of a copy of a copy (of a copy). So honestly, the real question would be, is the Steve Rogers we have today the same Steve Rogers Franklin Richards brought back after Onslaught and again after Secret Wars? Then the answer would be yes, yes he is. Hydra!Cap was a subset brought into existence by a being (the living embodiment of the cosmic cube) who's power set is similar to Franklin's, in that she can create and alter reality. I think of it as this way: Kobik (the cosmic cube) altered part of reality for the Secret Empire storyline, when she did that she saved the real!Steve as a backup copy, just in case she had to revert reality to the previous version once she was done playing with it (and she did). Despite the manipulation of Red Skull, a part of her realized the necessity of keeping real!Steve around early on (re: the Vanishing Point storyline within Secret Empire).