Steve Rogers: Captain America Appreciation 2020

[capandkirby]

Captain America is awesome but I have to say that DC could use him especially with the Event Leviathan & the Joker War or 3 Jokers !

I’m unfamiliar with the events you’re referring to but Cap (and Namor and the original Human Torch, Jim Hammond) were almost sold to DC at one point. In 1957. Atlas, the publishing company Marvel was using at the time went under. Couple that with the Comics Code of Authority driving the sales of comics down and Marvel was almost completely done for. So much so that they had exactly one employee left in the comics division, Stan Lee, having laid off everyone else. DC, who was in a stronger position, and sensing opportunity, made them an offer for the rights to Cap, Namor and Jim. Ultimately Martin Goodman turned them down though and thus Cap remained with Marvel.

[justanotherclassic]

Today’s release (issue #21) was excellent! I’ve missed the Cap book so much and it’s awesome to see it come back with a bang. Page turner from start to finish. Can’t wait for the next issue!

I really enjoyed this issue. It was good. The line about American men marching themselves to slaughter hit different, especially since I'm sure it was written before the pandemic became what it was. I doubt we'll see Krakoa weigh in, but shouldn't they have massive issues with what Selene is doing? Also, it's pretty apparent that Steve is especially emotionally compromised on this mission, and it's interesting to see how that's influencing his actions.

Lastly, I am very glad Bob Q is on the art. Such an improvement.

[capandkirby]

I’m unfamiliar with the events you’re referring to but Cap (and Namor and the original Human Torch, Jim Hammond) were almost sold to DC at one point. In 1957. Atlas, the publishing company Marvel was using at the time went under. Couple that with the Comics Code of Authority driving the sales of comics down and Marvel was almost completely done for. So much so that they had exactly one employee left in the comics division, Stan Lee, having laid off everyone else. DC, who was in a stronger position, and sensing opportunity, made them an offer for the rights to Cap, Namor and Jim. Ultimately Martin Goodman turned them down though and thus Cap remained with Marvel.

The irony here is that Cap (and Black Panther, Hawkeye, Dr. Strange and Shang-Chi) was the collateral that Merrill Lynch wanted in order to lend Marvel the money ($525 million dollars) to make the first Iron Man film. So Cap has come close to switching hands TWICE. If the first Iron Man film had failed, Cap (and some of his friends) would now be owned by Merrill Lynch.

[capandkirby]

I really enjoyed this issue. It was good. The line about American men marching themselves to slaughter hit different, especially since I'm sure it was written before the pandemic became what it was. I doubt we'll see Krakoa weigh in, but shouldn't they have massive issues with what Selene is doing? Also, it's pretty apparent that Steve is especially emotionally compromised on this mission, and it's interesting to see how that's influencing his actions.

Lastly, I am very glad Bob Q is on the art. Such an improvement.

Yes, I agree, Steve is definitely emotionally compromised (bless him), made the whole thing even more heartbreaking for me. With Selene having a piece of Sharon’s soul, makes me wonder if Sharon can be controlled like the townspeople were in that fight? Which makes the stakes even more poignant considering both Steve’s and Sharon’s history. Ouch. Poor babies.

I have the same thoughts about Selene, so you’re alone. I would certainly hope they’d have an issue with what Selene is doing!!!

Bob Q is such a gem!

[tliscord]

Something odd bothering me about the full frontal assault. For such an intriguing trio of heroes, I wouldn't expect to see Sam, Cap, and Buck charging into a situation together. I know, a small point in an otherwise welcomed issue, but Coates initially had the Winter Soldier at the onset of this series sniping the Nukes from above. I could see Cap crushing it here in a full frontal assault of Selene's hq, Buck in the shadows waiting the right moment, and Sam flying recon or maybe joining Cap.

Bob Quinn is an improvement but still sad we got so little of Yu.

[justanotherclassic]

Something odd bothering me about the full frontal assault. For such an intriguing trio of heroes, I wouldn't expect to see Sam, Cap, and Buck charging into a situation together. I know, a small point in an otherwise welcomed issue, but Coates initially had the Winter Soldier at the onset of this series sniping the Nukes from above. I could see Cap crushing it here in a full frontal assault of Selene's hq, Buck in the shadows waiting the right moment, and Sam flying recon or maybe joining Cap.

That's definitely a fair point. I think I was able to write off the frontal assault as Steve's decision-making capabilities being compromised and not making the best plan. Pretty early in the issue he outright told Sharon that she was more important than the rest of the mission. He wanted in there and to get the necklace, and that was that. I noticed how he was the one making a bee-line for Selene/reaching her necklace. Should Bucky and Sam have maybe pushed back on that? Probably.

[TheMaker1610]

I am enjoying this run so far, however I just noticed something (i dont know if it was already covered/explained here)

I know Ross "death" was a red-herring all along, but it quite contradicts an important plot-point of Absolute Carnage, in which Cletus exhumed every single Symbiote-host grave, and Ross' body was mentioned as one of those found out
Is there any explanation for that? or I got that wrong?

(Sorry for broken english btw)

[K7P5V]

I’m unfamiliar with the events you’re referring to but Cap (and Namor and the original Human Torch, Jim Hammond) were almost sold to DC at one point. In 1957. Atlas, the publishing company Marvel was using at the time went under. Couple that with the Comics Code of Authority driving the sales of comics down and Marvel was almost completely done for. So much so that they had exactly one employee left in the comics division, Stan Lee, having laid off everyone else. DC, who was in a stronger position, and sensing opportunity, made them an offer for the rights to Cap, Namor and Jim. Ultimately Martin Goodman turned them down though and thus Cap remained with Marvel.

Thanks for the history lesson, capandkirby. Where would Marvel Comics be without the Invaders?!?

[capandkirby]

I am enjoying this run so far, however I just noticed something (i dont know if it was already covered/explained here)

I know Ross "death" was a red-herring all along, but it quite contradicts an important plot-point of Absolute Carnage, in which Cletus exhumed every single Symbiote-host grave, and Ross' body was mentioned as one of those found out
Is there any explanation for that? or I got that wrong?

(Sorry for broken english btw)

To the best of my knowledge (I read both Cap and Immortal Hulk, but I’m a tiny bit behind on Hulk) we’re still waiting on an explanation on how Ross came back, with, apparently (re: the preview of the Cap #26 cover) Red Hulk intact. I’m pretty sure this is going to be the main theme of the next arc in the Cap book, because by all accounts issue #25 of Cap is going to wrap up the Power Elite arc. Makes me wonder if Cap and Hulk will tie-in together and if Ewing and Coates are working together. Anyone else have any further insight on the Ross situation?

[capandkirby]

Thanks for the history lesson, capandkirby. Where would Marvel Comics be without the Invaders?!?

No problem and I agree, the Invaders are hands down my favorite team, and I can’t imagine Marvel without them.

[Captain Craig]

Now that a Defenders Omni is forthcoming my hopes for an Invaders Omni have gone up.

[Digifiend]

Priest is writing a U.S.Agent mini!
https://comicbook.com/marvel/news/ma...but-this-fall/

[capandkirby]

Priest is writing a U.S.Agent mini!
https://comicbook.com/marvel/news/ma...but-this-fall/

So glad to see Priest back!!!

LOL’d at this...

“I was thrilled to be invited back to Captain America until I realized it was this guy, Cap’s scowling, emotionally damaged misfit cousin. Cousin America.”

Mr. Priest, for the record, I’d personally love to see you write Cap again. Meanwhile gonna go subscribe to this.

[Mike_Murdock]

Priest is writing a U.S.Agent mini!
https://comicbook.com/marvel/news/ma...but-this-fall/

Here's the weird thing. I don't love US Agent as a character. But I recently started reading Gruenwald's run and I love Super Patriot and replacement Captain America a lot. It's just a shame the character got really boring after that. I'm hoping Priest will bring something interesting to the character.

[Chris0013]

Here's the weird thing. I don't love US Agent as a character. But I recently started reading Gruenwald's run and I love Super Patriot and replacement Captain America a lot. It's just a shame the character got really boring after that. I'm hoping Priest will bring something interesting to the character.

I say this constantly......Walker has some serious character development moments...but then someone comes along and just defaults to annoying jack ass and buffoon with no respect to the previous development.

To me...at least...Walker at this point should be portrayed something like Gibbs from NCIS and Sam Gerard from The Fugitive and U.S. Marshals.