well people are pushing a agenda without caring if it fits the characters, so we have all this nosense for jean grey
The criticism is very fair for both.Take this as just as much a criticism of the 'Jott or death' mandate for Jean Grey as you take it as criticism of AO3ing the characters without accounting for their histories.
Had Jean been allowed th he same opportunities for relationship exploration that some of the other characters have, this idea would be more grounded.
Anything have to respect chaarcters stories, I was ok with iceman because that was a story waiting decades to happen.
Agree, Jean have to explore romantic world on her own, anything else feels very sexist. Like men again throwing her character around to be used
I feel that people really want to ignore that striaght people exists.
Logan nor scott are gays or bisexuals, they never had attraction to men.
Yeah the thing with revealing a character is bisexual...it doesn't invalidate their previous relationships. It's just a different facet of themselves they haven't explored or expressed that much.
And it's not like this definitively makes Logan bisexual, he could just have his time with Jean while Scott is ok with it and they are all on good terms. The speedo thing could just be a joke/teasing, though at this point I think Scott/Logan is FAR more likely than Logan and Emma getting involved.
Yeah, it's not like mainstream superhero comics have cared to even entertain the subject before. So of course there is no precedent for the four of them doing poly. But it is these four specifically because it's the one that would get the most attention. Nobody would give as much of a crap if it was some b or c list X-Men.
The love rectangle is likely never going away and we all likely have the MCU version to "look forward" to; this at least is an outside the box way of exploring it if it has to be around.
Jean being down for this is hardly the most unrealistic thing that has happened in her batshit insane life.
I don't know why she needs to have other experiences for this to make sense for her. Surely there isn't some universal "map" for situations like this that apply for everyone?
talk that to mockingbird!!!! at least with her it was fun and made sense for the characters.
I really doubt that Jean would be doing two guys. JDW wouldn't panic to get Jean anew love interest on Age of X-man if she was with two guys.
I really don't think dating two men is progressive
gay and poliamori. People can't deny there is a agenda behind this.
They are just making people be against it instead of help
Compare what Claremont did to What hickman is trying, an dit is night and day. Claremont at least tried to be adult and build something.
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1- it also makes sense with Jean. It is not my coup of tea and i know you don't like it either but it is what is happening. At least she has story with these guys. It would be more out of character if she suddenly was doing two she had nothing to do with
2- well she is doing it.
3- Some people think it is progressive and others not. These are all opinions
So, the good old gay agenda. Here to turn our children into godless communists.
How about. "Writer wants to write a story". That sounds quite more likely than "Mega corporation which has shown time and time again that the only thing it cares about is money is trying to force writers into putting something they basically forbidd in movies till this day"
1 doesn't make sense and is not happening. Unless it is acknowledged on page instead of 5th grade innuendos
2 she isn't
3 it's not a opinion when one guy cheated on her and the other sexually assaulted her many times. if people want to ignore all te implications, that doesn't look good or progressive
i'm communist and I'm not straight. of course it doesn't matter on this conversation
Writer isn't even telling a story, he is destroying characters and their stories because he is bating people. If he was serious about this, at least I could accept but he isn't
poor excuse, if this can happen now it could happen before. where was that subtext?? well it didn't existed.
marvel can't allow the word "cramp" but folks think poliamor gonna happen
everything is political
Nah he isn't. it doesn't need to be long because he isn't building the relationships, just doing the bare minimum so people goes crazy and make some headlines.