View Poll Results: Who are some of your fav New Mutants?

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  • Dani Moonstar

    163 61.28%
  • Sunspot

    124 46.62%
  • Magik

    181 68.05%
  • Karma

    85 31.95%
  • Cannonball

    99 37.22%
  • Wolfsbane

    83 31.20%
  • Cypher

    74 27.82%
  • Warlock

    54 20.30%
  • Magma

    59 22.18%
  • Boom-Boom

    61 22.93%
  • Rictor

    73 27.44%
  • Blink

    41 15.41%
  • Strong Guy

    18 6.77%
  • Rusty

    16 6.02%
  • Skids

    29 10.90%
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericng View Post
    So the correct official ages are

    Roberto - 13
    Rahne, Amara, Illyana, Kitty, Doug - 14
    Dani - 15
    Sam - 16
    Karma - 19


    The age of Kitty was 13.5 when she was introduced but got into 14 when New Mutants were introduced. Doug is Kitty's classmate so he's the same age as Kitty. Kitty was a New Mutant even though it was a short stint.

    https://observationdeck.**********/t...already%20know.

    It seems that most of the first generation of New Mutants were 14 years old. Don't know why Roberto was made the youngest in the team when he should be 14 as well.

    Sam and Karma should be the co-leaders not Dani.
    Karma actually was leader for the first 4 issues until she disappeared. After that is when the Sam/Dani leader-thing started.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericng View Post
    So the correct official ages are

    Roberto - 13
    Rahne, Amara, Illyana, Kitty, Doug - 14
    Dani - 15
    Sam - 16
    Karma - 19


    The age of Kitty was 13.5 when she was introduced but got into 14 when New Mutants were introduced. Doug is Kitty's classmate so he's the same age as Kitty. Kitty was a New Mutant even though it was a short stint.

    https://observationdeck.**********/t...already%20know.

    It seems that most of the first generation of New Mutants were 14 years old. Don't know why Roberto was made the youngest in the team when he should be 14 as well.

    Sam and Karma should be the co-leaders not Dani.
    bc its highly unlikely that most of the characters would be the same age. Statisticaly, it makes sense that there would be a range. We dont know how far apart these ages were anyway. Bobby for all we know could be 2 months shy of his 14th birthday when he was introduced. FYI Doug and Kitty werent classmates. She went to Xavier's School whereas he was enrolled in the local private school. Her age doesnt really inform what his was
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericng View Post
    So the correct official ages are

    Roberto - 13
    Rahne, Amara, Illyana, Kitty, Doug - 14
    Dani - 15
    Sam - 16
    Karma - 19


    The age of Kitty was 13.5 when she was introduced but got into 14 when New Mutants were introduced. Doug is Kitty's classmate so he's the same age as Kitty. Kitty was a New Mutant even though it was a short stint.

    https://observationdeck.**********/t...already%20know.

    It seems that most of the first generation of New Mutants were 14 years old. Don't know why Roberto was made the youngest in the team when he should be 14 as well.

    Sam and Karma should be the co-leaders not Dani.
    It was said multiple times than Rahne was the youngest of the group. I think that scan of number 2 was an error between Roberto and Rahne.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sallyblevins View Post
    It was said multiple times than Rahne was the youngest of the group. I think that scan of number 2 was an error between Roberto and Rahne.
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    It can't be wrong on two issues for Rahne when she was mentioned as 14, one is New Mutants graphic novel and the other is New Mutants #2.

    It could be Roberto's age was 14 instead and Rahne was several months younger.

    Maybe the artist made a boo-boo on Roberto's age?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sallyblevins View Post
    It was said multiple times than Rahne was the youngest of the group. I think that scan of number 2 was an error between Roberto and Rahne.
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    The stuff in the Graphic Novel and #2 happened first. Roberto was originally the youngest. Anything after that which contradicts this can be considered a retcon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    The stuff in the Graphic Novel and #2 happened first. Roberto was originally the youngest. Anything after that which contradicts this can be considered a retcon
    It could be an error that Roberto was 13. Maybe both are 14 with Rahne still the youngest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    The stuff in the Graphic Novel and #2 happened first. Roberto was originally the youngest. Anything after that which contradicts this can be considered a retcon
    How can it be a retcon if it was written by the same writer just a few months apart and it was mentioned twice not once.

    The more logical explanation is that the artist got Roberto's age wrong in the screen.

    Is there any other proofs of Roberto's age other than the screen?

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    I dont think there are any other proof that Roberto were the youngest member. Another scan from the xavier archives
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericng View Post
    How can it be a retcon if it was written by the same writer just a few months apart and it was mentioned twice not once.

    The more logical explanation is that the artist got Roberto's age wrong in the screen.

    Is there any other proofs of Roberto's age other than the screen?
    A writer can retcon their own material

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    Quote Originally Posted by sallyblevins View Post
    I dont think there are any other proof that Roberto were the youngest member. Another scan from the xavier archives
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    I can't see what is written there, what age does it state there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    A writer can retcon their own material
    True but not within such a short time and certainly not for a meticulous writer such as Chris Claremont when everything was planned one year ahead.

    Maybe decades later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericng View Post
    I can't see what is written there, what age does it state there?
    “By far the youngest -in temperament if not in actual age-...”

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    Quote Originally Posted by sallyblevins View Post
    “By far the youngest -in temperament if not in actual age-...”
    It looks like Chris really meant her to be the youngest member but since she was mentioned in Graphic Novel and New Mutants #2 to be 14, then we must correct Roberto's age to be 14 instead.

    After all, the New Mutants Graphic Novel is the most important debut issue and can't have any errors in it, don't you all agree?

    Anyway, the data on that screen were entered by their enemies (and not someone who know them well) so they could have got Roberto's age wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    She went to Xavier's School whereas he was enrolled in the local private school. Her age doesnt really inform what his was
    The fact that both Xavier and Emma just found out that Doug was a mutant shows that his power just manifested for them to detect.

    I doubt Doug is the same age or older than Dani who is 15 and Rahne's the youngest. It's more likely that he's also 14 which is the age that most mutant powers first developed.

    Remember, Chris Claremont used the oldest New Mutants as the co-leaders. Doug wasn't chosen as one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericng View Post
    The fact that both Xavier and Emma just found out that Doug was a mutant shows that his power just manifested for them to detect.

    I doubt Doug is older than Dani and Rahne's the youngest. It's more likely that he's also 14 which is the age that mutant powers first developed.
    Um no. The X-gene primarily activates at puberty but there is no rule that it happens at age 14. Cannonball, Kitty, Karma and Dani all contradict this statement. Not to mention there are plenty of mutants with an active X-gene at birth (Madrox, Nightcrawler, Beast, Gambit), those with one by pre-school (Franklin Richards, Leech, Artie) and others by 10 (Jean Grey, Manon & Maxine, St. Croix twins, X-23). Your statement is absolutely false
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