Mary Jane Watson-Parker Appreciation 2020

[Jman27]

She's either a total reimagining of the character or an MCU OC (do not steal) that does not stand out on their own and has to co-opt a canon character.

That people can't seem to agree which she is is kind of the problem and has come to totally define this character.

shes fine as she is I dont mind if she Mj or not

[TheCape]

I'm pretty sure that she is considered MCU Mary Jane at this point, especially after having the plotline of discovering his secret before he tells her, i'm pretty sure that she is still the only love interest in Spider-Man lore that does that. Either way, as a characther she is okish at best, kind of meh at worst.

[Frontier]

Was "Jones" just rumored? I guess there was never any official media with it, people just ran with it.

Guess it doesn't matter because she's just "MJ" now because that's the role she needs to fulfill .

Personally I feel like Zendaya could've been a much more convincing Mary Jane than they're letting her portray. She's even dyed her hair red in public.

[Kevinroc]

Was "Jones" just rumored? I guess there was never any official media with it, people just ran with it.

Guess it doesn't matter because she's just "MJ" now because that's the role she needs to fulfill .

Personally I feel like Zendaya could've been a much more convincing Mary Jane than they're letting her portray. She's even dyed her hair red in public.

Did some research. She was called "Jones" by a Variety reporter at one point and people seemed to take that as official even though it is not.

I'm just tired of the wishy-washy "is she supposed to be MCU Mary Jane or not?" and consider Marvel to be a bunch of cowards for their "she's MJ but not Mary Jane" attitude.

[Jman27]

Was "Jones" just rumored? I guess there was never any official media with it, people just ran with it.

Guess it doesn't matter because she's just "MJ" now because that's the role she needs to fulfill .

Personally I feel like Zendaya could've been a much more convincing Mary Jane than they're letting her portray. She's even dyed her hair red in public.

i feel like if she was MJ from the jump fans will be complaining even more

[Kevinroc]

i feel like if she was MJ from the jump fans will be complaining even more

That's why I consider Marvel to be a bunch of cowards. They should have owned up to it from the beginning. "We cast Zendaya as Mary Jane."

Instead we get this wishy-washy attitude from them that basically boils down to "She's MJ but not Mary Jane."

[Jman27]

That's why I consider Marvel to be a bunch of cowards. They should have owned up to it from the beginning. "We cast Zendaya as Mary Jane."

Instead we get this wishy-washy attitude from them that basically boils down to "She's MJ but not Mary Jane."

I dont blame them to be honest who wants to deal with the loud ones every single time

[Huntsman Spider]

I dont blame them to be honest who wants to deal with the loud ones every single time

Fair enough, though at some point, as a major content creator whose output has great influence on how people who consume said content see themselves, each other, and the world around them, that comes with responsibility, which can't and shouldn't be shirked just because they're afraid of how some people will try to twist it to foment anger and hatred among some corners of the fandom.

[Jman27]

Fair enough, though at some point, as a major content creator whose output has great influence on how people who consume said content see themselves, each other, and the world around them, that comes with responsibility, which can't and shouldn't be shirked just because they're afraid of how some people will try to twist it to foment anger and hatred among some corners of the fandom.

Thats also true

[Huntsman Spider]

Thats also true

Yeah, I mean, if you can't or won't win either way, then you might as well err on the side of your convictions, such as they are.

[Frontier]

I mean, I personally would have been disappointed if they called her Mary Jane and still characterized her like they do in the movies because aside from a few similar traits the characters don't really read to me as the same (but I could say the same for most MCU Spider-Man characters).

I guess on a shallow level Michelle in the movies have meant that to a general audience Mary Jane Watson is still a green-eyed redhead.

[Kevinroc]

I mean, I personally would have been disappointed if they called her Mary Jane and still characterized her like they do in the movies because aside from a few similar traits the characters don't really read to me as the same (but I could say the same for most MCU Spider-Man characters).

I guess on a shallow level Michelle in the movies have meant that to a general audience Mary Jane Watson is still a green-eyed redhead.

I don't think audiences know about Mary Jane's eye color (doesn't she have blue eyes in Into The Spider-Verse?). People just think of her as a Caucasian redhead.

The only reason Mary Jane is a Caucasian redhead is because Romita modeled her after Ann-Margaret in Bye Bye Birdie. Because that was the standard of beauty at the time. I think Marvel could have sent a powerful message if they said Mary Jane, who has oft been described as beautiful, were unequivocally portrayed by a WOC.

(Obviously I think there's more to Mary Jane than her being physically attractive.)

[Revolutionary_Jack]

I don't think audiences know about Mary Jane's eye color (doesn't she have blue eyes in Into The Spider-Verse?). People just think of her as a Caucasian redhead.

MJ originally had blue eyes in the Lee-Romita era. Her eyes became green much later.

Kirst Dunst had blue eyes as well in the movie (and also in real life, I don't know). The PS4 version also has blue eyes.

[Prime]

Why didn't they just make her a red head or hire a redhead actress?

[NC_Yankee]

Was "Jones" just rumored? I guess there was never any official media with it, people just ran with it.

Guess it doesn't matter because she's just "MJ" now because that's the role she needs to fulfill .

Personally I feel like Zendaya could've been a much more convincing Mary Jane than they're letting her portray. She's even dyed her hair red in public.

My problem is not the fact that Zendaya is a person of color ( sometimes a person of color improves a story ( see Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury), it is that Zendaya is nothing like the Mary Jane in the comics ( the same issue I had with Kirsten Dunst). The best version I have seen was Into The Spider-Verse and she was voiced by someone of color ( Zoe Kravitz).