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    * The MCU did not invent good superhero movies.

    * Captain America: The Winter Soldier is a good action film. It fails at political commentary. Likewise, Captain America: The First Avenger is fun but rather mediocre and is exactly the type of US military propaganda Captain Marvel is accused of.

    * No Superman film will ever truly satisfy the fan base.

    * A Fresh Prince reboot/continuation may not be the worst idea.

    * Having teen or young adult characters frequently talk in Internet slang is pathetic.

    * Police procedurals will never go away but will undergo a revaluation. That said, writing a cop character as a nice person is not inherently propaganda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    * Having teen or young adult characters frequently talk in Internet slang is pathetic.
    Yeah, ok, boomer.

    (I kid, I kid. I couldn't resist.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    * The MCU did not invent good superhero movies.

    * Captain America: The Winter Soldier is a good action film. It fails at political commentary. Likewise, Captain America: The First Avenger is fun but rather mediocre and is exactly the type of US military propaganda Captain Marvel is accused of.
    Who said they did. Both Superman and Batman are recognized as good Superhero movies decades before the MCU.

    The Winter Soldier was a great political thriller, which is vastly different from political commentary, which it wasn't,
    The First Avenger was not mediocre precisely because it was so much fun.
    There came a time when the Old Gods died! The Brave died with the Cunning! The Noble perished locked in battle with unleashed Evil! It was the last day for them! An ancient era was passing in fiery holocaust!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    * No Superman film will ever truly satisfy the fan base.
    I think we need more variety of actual good Superman films before we can determine this. The last string of them (not just DCEU, but including III, IV and Returns) aren't even satisfying with the GA let alone the fanbase.

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    Fans in general loved I and II.
    There came a time when the Old Gods died! The Brave died with the Cunning! The Noble perished locked in battle with unleashed Evil! It was the last day for them! An ancient era was passing in fiery holocaust!

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    It's really annoying when television tries to handle current events. There were like a million episodes that were just ripped straight from the Cameron Todd Willingham case.

    It honestly shows a lack of creativity on the writers' part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PCN24454 View Post
    It's really annoying when television tries to handle current events. There were like a million episodes that were just ripped straight from the Cameron Todd Willingham case.

    It honestly shows a lack of creativity on the writers' part.
    I don't think enough attention was giving to that case. Rick Perry executed an innocent man. And interfered with his exonoration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby101 View Post
    I don't think enough attention was giving to that case. Rick Perry executed an innocent man. And interfered with his exonoration.
    People complain when kids shows are "preachy". Why would they enjoy it in an adult program?

    That being said, I see what you're saying.

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    Truthfully, I haven't seen the shows you are talking about.
    Was it Law & Order? What else?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby101 View Post
    Truthfully, I haven't seen the shows you are talking about.
    Was it Law & Order? What else?
    "The Good Wife" and "Cold Case" also did it. Procedurals are particularly guilty when it comes to "ripping from the headlines".

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    Casino Royal was awful, I nearly fell asleep 3 times during a James Bond movie!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby101 View Post
    Who said they did.
    Look at what happens almost every time a superhero movie that isn't from Disney gets announced. Venom, Joker, even Wonder Woman to an extent all got push back and you still get people insisting Into the Spider-verse was a fluke as if Sony doesn't have experience making Spider-Man movies. Whether the superhero movie is good or bad, you'll get people bashing it from the offset unless it is the MCU. To say nothing of the lunatics who threatened to storm Sony and make them give the Spider-Man rights to Disney.

    The Winter Soldier was a great political thriller, which is vastly different from political commentary, which it wasn't,
    Fine, it fails at political thriller then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PCN24454 View Post
    It's really annoying when television tries to handle current events. There were like a million episodes that were just ripped straight from the Cameron Todd Willingham case.

    It honestly shows a lack of creativity on the writers' part.
    Looking at the page you linked, only three t.v. show episodes and one movie was based on that case. I'm not saying ripped from the headlines isn't pervasive in film and t.v. but the Willingham case doesn't seem particularly egregious.

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    Friends is horrible....... can't stand it. Think I've seen 3 episodes in my life and hated them so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiegePerilous02 View Post
    - Maybe Game of Thrones was never a good show[/SIZE]
    Nah, those first four seasons were really good television. After that? YMMV.

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