Black Superhero Appreciation 2020

[TheManhunterfromMars]

If you want, I can post some dc super heroes too.

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[TheManhunterfromMars]

This ones are the lasts I have from cannon comics (if you have one and want to post it go ahead), then I have fan arts... about the same. I know, sorry if this theme tires you, but I believe best way of battle racism isn´t exactly interracial friendship, is it interracial relationships, black men and white women, for some reason white men and black women is more accepted by people, more mainstream, on movies and series, those relationship are almost always shown as solid, they use to last more.

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The comicbook characters Sam and Thordis smooching? I'd like the live action MCU Sam and MCU Thordis do the same in either the cinema or in a Disney+ series.

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Deadly Hands of Kung Fu #10 Mar 1975
The Sons of the Tiger star in "They Who Dwell Within!"
Worlds within worlds


as the Tiger Sons battle

to reach the stronghold of the Silent Ones.

Story by Bill Mantlo. Art by George Pérez and Mike Esposito.

[TheManhunterfromMars]

Blue Marvel and his wife are so perfect!

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STORM IN THOR LOVE AND THUNDER Thor Corps Full Plot Leak and Easter Eggs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Iagjg3Y-dg

Stormborn!!

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New Mutants #25 Mar 1985
"The Only Thing to Fear..."
Cloak and Dagger join the New Mutants, along with Rogue and Professor X in the foyer of St. Anne's Church.
There Dagger greets her uncle, Father Michael Bowen.
Dagger introduces Cloak as Ty.
He seems agitated and tells Dagger to leave him alone when she asks what is upsetting him.
He wishes that he had his power as Cloak back and sulks in the shadows.

Illyana recounts what had happened to her, Cloak and Dagger in Limbo.
She tells Professor X that her decision to try to help remove their powers with magic.
She took on the light and shadow from them and it proved to be too much for her body to take on.
The powers seemed to have been taken on by the group of New Mutants.

Cloak and Professor X talk about the loss of his powers
and Cloak eventually agrees that he will take on the powers again.

Illyana transports the group to Limbo.
There Rogue and Professor X take on the powers from the group.
They start with Wolfsbane and take on the light from her.

Then, Sunspot is next and the shadow that has enveloped him is not wanting to leave him without a fight.
Magik summons her Soulsword and strikes out at the shadow.

Cloak battles the shadow and realizes how it is when he uses his powers on others.
Rogue has to intervene and take on both the light and the shadow.
Magik then casts an exorcism spell.
Then, everyone wakes up in the church and they realize that they are all back to normal.
Cloak and Dagger take off to fight crimes again.
The New Mutants are fast asleep after their ordeal
and Magik falls asleep while talking to Father Bowen and Professor X.

Meanwhile, in uptown New York, a street junkie names Slick tries to give drugs to two young adults.
Cloak and Dagger attack and scare Slick into fainting and Dagger calls her uncle back up
and asks for a favor to look after the two young adults.
Then they take off into the dawn and realize that this is who they are as heroes and fighters of crime.

Script by Chris Claremont, art by Bill Sienkiewicz

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Godfrey: We've been Asking Marvel for a Black Superhero..

[dkrook]

Godfrey: We've been Asking Marvel for a Black Superhero..

Funny how vlad wants straight black men to coon for the gay section. Instead of leaning into the fact Marvel and comics in general are so scared to let black male heroes to be properly represented. Black Panther had to be championed by a one Nate Moore (black man) before we saw him on the big screen. Yes, forget about sidekicks too! Godfrey is 100%! Vlad is wack for being a knowledgeable culture vulture who pretends to not know the Hollywood agendas.

[Alphaxman]

Godfrey: We've been Asking Marvel for a Black Superhero..

As a gay black man, I took mild offense at Godfrey’s aversion to Brian Tyree Henry’s role as Phastos being: “The first gay superhero on film being black”. It just demonstrates the massive homophobia in the black community. It was also silly how he bypassed Falcon, War Machine, Heimdall, and most importantly, Black Panther. And when he brought up Black Lightning not having a damn car… A DAMN CAR?!? It was just asinine. Like, BL is massively powerful, but because he didn’t have a lightning-mobile he was a less-than character.


Another thing that irked my nerves was when the interviewer brought up Michael Jai White (Spawn) which led to questioning Godfrey (who interrupted to praise White, only to denigrate Anthony Mackie, Idris Elba, Don Cheadle, etc., alluding that they are not “real brothas”, because White isn’t casted in a major Marvel or DC movie) if he would accepted the role of Phastos if BTH dropped out and he was their seconded choice. His mocking mannerisms of an effeminate man was just insulting. And then says he’s not homophobic… like brotha please! What you said and how you acted just moments before, says otherwise. I don’t care if you have gay or trans “friends”. It was just foul.


And then he has a nerve to justify his aversion to playing a “GAY ROLE” because of Hollywood’s agenda of de-masculinizing the black man. I call B.S. to that too. The only time “Hollywood” has de-masculinized black men was when black comedians posed as black women – by their choice, most, if not all, of the time. How many black male actors were forced to play gay on screen? Will Smith in Six Degrees of Separation – Forest Whitaker in the Crying Game? There weren’t that many and believe me I looked. So he’s not dying on any hill for refusing to stretch his acting muscles. But if he thinks all gay men acted the way he did in this interview, he wouldn’t have a problem, because no casting director would hire him anyway.


Now for the larger issue with black superheroes, he does have a point that most black male heroes play second string (side-kicks) to white men. Or they don’t have superpowers outside suits and weapons. But in the MCU most of the heroes don’t have superpowers. Out of the original Avengers, half the team don’t have powers. In the Guardians, Mantis and Groot are the only ones with superpowers. And the only reason Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, Vision and Captain Marvel have powers were because of the Stones.


I’m not saying that Marvel or DC has a stellar record with black superheroes. But I can’t blame Hollywood or MCU. Comic creators from the 40s to the early 70s didn’t make any (other than BP) and we all know that most of the major comic characters were created during that time period. But one thing Marvel can say: there wouldn’t have been Spider-man or X-Men movies if it wasn’t for the success of a black man named Blade.

Another problem, he didn't speak on, was that none of the African American black men seem to have love lives. We could assume they're straight, but can we really know? That's more of a problem than one black man out of six (Fury, WM, Falcon, BP, Hem and Phs) is gay or whatever.

[mace11]

Most of the superheroes in the mcu do have superpowers by the way and some of the black the superheroes have superpowers without suits and weapons.
All of guardians have superpowers but for most it's just low level.
Starlord in gotg 2 was OP.
He had a high level of superpowers in gotg 2.
Of course not most of the film.

MCU -Drax (Earth-199999)
Powers
Enhanced Musculature: Drax's enhanced musculature grants him immense physical strength and stamina.
Impact Resistant Skin: Drax's skin is impact resistant granting him enhanced resilience and durability.
Augmented Cellular Regeneration: Drax processes augmented cellular regeneration allowing him to rapidly heal and recover from injuries or physical traumas.
Abilities
Brawling: Drax is an accomplished brawler, combining brute force fist fighting tactics with occasional wrestling techniques. He is accustomed to taking up arms to further supplement his combat effectiveness, most often wading into battle with a pair of knives. His murderous intent makes him a dangerous opponent when he cares little for his own safety and doesn't hold back in unleashing pain on his opponents.
Literal-Minded: Drax is extremely literal-minded, leading to problematic situations when he misinterprets information.
Bloodlust: Drax's murderous intent and overconfidence easily leads him (and potentially others associated with him) into situations beyond his capabilities.
https://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Drax_(Earth-199999)


Peter Quill (Earth-199999)
Powers
Celestial/Human Physiology: Star-Lord's heritage is a Celestial/Human hybrid, granting him abilities outside of his human form.
Enhanced Strength: He has above-human physical strength, being able to tackle Groot, a walking tree with ease.
Enhanced Durability: His enhanced physical constitution has allowed him to survive powerful physical attacks, even those from superhumanly strong beings without it slowing his performance.
Peak Human Condition: Quill can endure long periods of time in battle without tiring.
Energy Manipulation: Peter's connection to the planet Ego allowed him to conjure up energy to create energy constructs while he was connected to the planet.
Energy Resistance: Quill was able to survive holding an Infinity Stone for an extended period without being destroyed by its power.
Immortality:'Star-Lord is a half celestial so there is no means of death to him.
https://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Peter_...199999)#Powers


MCU/Rocket-89P13 (Earth-199999)
Powers
Raccoon Physiology: Rocket possesses the same enhanced abilities attributed to Earth raccoons, including an acute sense of smell, sharp eyesight, and enhanced senses.
Enhanced Condition: Rocket has been augmented in torturous experiments and as a result has superhuman abilities that are uncommon for raccoons.
Enhanced Strength: Despite his size, he has above human levels of physical strength, and is able to batter a human-sized opponent unconsciousness.
Enhanced Agility: He can walk on two legs like a humanoid being as well as run on all four limbs.
Enhanced Intelligence: Due to the augmentations, he gained a vast genius-level intellect and became an expert engineer, especially a weapons engineer.
https://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/89P13_(Earth-199999)


Gamora (Earth-199999)
Powers
Cybernetic Enhancement: Gamora has been augmented with advanced cybernetic implants including cybernetic appendages granting her enhanced strength and reflexes, ocular and respiratory implants, and enhanced neurobiogolical system providing her with enhanced durability and rapid healing.
Abilities
Master Combatant: Gamora is highly trained in many forms of combat. Able to best most people that she comes across.
https://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Gamora_(Earth-199999)



Groot (Earth-199999)
Powers
Flora colossus physiology: Groot has abilities native to his species:
Strength: Groot's tree like form provides him great strength. He is the strongest member of the group, being able lift many heavy objects including several men on just one arm.
Durability: Groot's hide is composed of wood dense enough and durable enough to make him immune to most conventional weapons, including gunfire and fire which would consume most woods. He can endure the loss of entire limbs apparently without experiencing pain.
Cellular Regeneration: Groot has an amazing regeneration factor and has been shown to be able regrow everything from a missing limb to his whole body.
Spores: Groot has the ability to produce tiny phosphorescent spores that float through the air and offer enough ambient light to illuminate a small area.
Plasticity: Groot has the ability to stretch his limbs for long distances and reshape them for a variety of tasks. He normally takes the shape of a large tree-like humanoid, but can also weave his limbs into a dense tangle of vines. Individual pseudopods can be grown at will, to act as fingers, rudimentary tools, or even bud a small flower.
Weaknesses
Impaired Communication: Although Groot is able to understand common speech his own speech is limited to the phrase "I am Groot", but he also managed to say two new words: "We" and "are". However, Rocket is able to understand the subtle nuances of Groot's speech, which themselves convey a far more complex language than most can detect.
Although strong and durable, Groot is still vulnerable to particularly intense fires, as shown when his body was nearly completely destroyed when Ronan's ship crashed.
https://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Groot_(Earth-199999)

Although strong and durable, Groot is still vulnerable to particularly intense fires, as shown when his body was nearly completely destroyed when Ronan's ship crashed.
Nebula (Earth-199999)
Cyborg Body: Nebula's body has been systematically torn apart and replaced with machinery. Much of her skeletal structure includes some degree of technology supporting her musculature, and her left arm is almost entirely robotic. Nebula's voice is also rendered in a synthetic quality.

Enhanced Durability: The mechanisms supporting Nebula's limbs and jaw can realign these body parts in the event of severe damage. Multiple internal fractures or dislocations appear to be restored to a fully functional state in a matter of seconds when compromised.
https://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Nebula_(Earth-199999)

Guardians of the Galaxy (Earth-199999)
https://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Guardi...(Earth-199999)

Most of the avengers do have superpowers as well(if you include tony suit).
If you do not include and it's only tony then it will be half.
Captain america is a low level superhuman for example.
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Steve...(Earth-199999)

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Categ...999_Characters


Most of the later avengers do have superpowers.

I don't think most the the black superheroes in the mcu are side kicks to white men either.
Black panther is not a sidekick(he has superpowers even without the suit and weapons).
I don't think hemdall(who has superpowers) or nick fury are sidekicks.
Karl Mordo(who has superpowers) was one of doctor strange teachers so he was not side kick.
Luke cage is not side kick(he has superpowers by the way).
Deathlok is not a sidekick etc..etc..
Misty knight was luke cage partner and she she did not see herself has luke's sidekick(and he is not a white man even if she was his sidekick at times).
Alex wilder from the runaways tv show is not a side kick.
Cloak is not a side kick(he has superpowers too).
Mack is the leader of shield and he was not a sidekick.
Gabe jones was in the u.s. army, a team member not a side kick.

Now Sometimes falcon and war-machine are side kicks and sometimes they are team members in the avengers like black widow.
Clearly in his own show falcon will not be a sidekick.

Note- yes the shows are not canon to the mcu films(they are a alternate universe/s) but they are still called mcu shows.

[dkrook]

As a gay black man, I took mild offense at Godfrey’s aversion to Brian Tyree Henry’s role as Phastos being: “The first gay superhero on film being black”. It just demonstrates the massive homophobia in the black community. It was also silly how he bypassed Falcon, War Machine, Heimdall, and most importantly, Black Panther. And when he brought up Black Lightning not having a damn car… A DAMN CAR?!? It was just asinine. Like, BL is massively powerful, but because he didn’t have a lightning-mobile he was a less-than character.


Another thing that irked my nerves was when the interviewer brought up Michael Jai White (Spawn) which led to questioning Godfrey (who interrupted to praise White, only to denigrate Anthony Mackie, Idris Elba, Don Cheadle, etc., alluding that they are not “real brothas”, because White isn’t casted in a major Marvel or DC movie) if he would accepted the role of Phastos if BTH dropped out and he was their seconded choice. His mocking mannerisms of an effeminate man was just insulting. And then says he’s not homophobic… like brotha please! What you said and how you acted just moments before, says otherwise. I don’t care if you have gay or trans “friends”. It was just foul.


And then he has a nerve to justify his aversion to playing a “GAY ROLE” because of Hollywood’s agenda of de-masculinizing the black man. I call B.S. to that too. The only time “Hollywood” has de-masculinized black men was when black comedians posed as black women – by their choice, most, if not all, of the time. How many black male actors were forced to play gay on screen? Will Smith in Six Degrees of Separation – Forest Whitaker in the Crying Game? There weren’t that many and believe me I looked. So he’s not dying on any hill for refusing to stretch his acting muscles. But if he thinks all gay men acted the way he did in this interview, he wouldn’t have a problem, because no casting director would hire him anyway.


Now for the larger issue with black superheroes, he does have a point that most black male heroes play second string (side-kicks) to white men. Or they don’t have superpowers outside suits and weapons. But in the MCU most of the heroes don’t have superpowers. Out of the original Avengers, half the team don’t have powers. In the Guardians, Mantis and Groot are the only ones with superpowers. And the only reason Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, Vision and Captain Marvel have powers were because of the Stones.


I’m not saying that Marvel or DC has a stellar record with black superheroes. But I can’t blame Hollywood or MCU. Comic creators from the 40s to the early 70s didn’t make any (other than BP) and we all know that most of the major comic characters were created during that time period. But one thing Marvel can say: there wouldn’t have been Spider-man or X-Men movies if it wasn’t for the success of a black man named Blade.

Another problem, he didn't speak on, was that none of the African American black men seem to have love lives. We could assume they're straight, but can we really know? That's more of a problem than one black man out of six (Fury, WM, Falcon, BP, Hem and Phs) is gay or whatever.

Odd how you can easily ascribe to the (black community) being homophobic, while at the same time not so willing to ascribe a very obvious nuanced agenda to detract from Strong, straight black male roles. Yes, Dave Chappelle on national TV gave an exact account of how straight black men are pressured to be effeminate for roles. Yes, MCU gave us two sidekick brothers and one true black male hero. More to this point Black Panther crushed all other individual hero movies, you know what he rewards for that? Captain Marvel is leapfrogging him for next Avengers leader. Now include the rumors and suggestions that he be replaced by Shuri...!!!???! Everyone has a right to be and like what they want but black men seem to catch it from all sides for just wanting proper ....I say PROPER treatment!

[Alphaxman]

Odd how you can easily ascribe to the (black community) being homophobic, while at the same time not so willing to ascribe a very obvious nuanced agenda to detract from Strong, straight black male roles. Yes, Dave Chappelle on national TV gave an exact account of how straight black men are pressured to be effeminate for roles. Yes, MCU gave us two sidekick brothers and one true black male hero. More to this point Black Panther crushed all other individual hero movies, you know what he rewards for that? Captain Marvel is leapfrogging him for next Avengers leader. Now include the rumors and suggestions that he be replaced by Shuri...!!!???! Everyone has a right to be and like what they want but black men seem to catch it from all sides for just wanting proper ....I say PROPER treatment!

Well it’s nice to know that black men like me are not proper or that a lot of people in the black community only tolerate black men and barely recognize black trans women as who they are, or believe that black bisexual men don’t exist because they’re really gay. That’s cool.

And it’s sad that Mackie, Cheadle, Jackson or Elba are not shown to be a “proper treatment” of black men on screen, either because they’re not the stars of their own movie yet. I mean, they are pretty weak male role, I guess. :eye-roll: But on your point about Chappelle’s well-crafted skit on black men in Hollywood, I still can’t totally agree with that. Hollywood had a tendency to cast black men as the boogie man or servant more than some gay man devoid of masculinity. And when it came to the drug dealer, pimp, gangsta, or hit man, you could never say they were effeminate roles. Lacking depth, yes, but never effeminate.


I ask again: how many lead or major supporting male roles that black men played were gay or trans? Now how many black comedians played cis woman (who most of the time were older woman who were overweight): Tyler Perry (who made Medea famous on stage way before Hollywood even knew his name), Eddie Murphy (could Hollywood really make him play the mother and the grandmother in the Nutty Professor, or was it his choice to play each character in the Klump family for comedic effect and lets not talk about that monstrosity that was Norbit. But I’m sure white Hollywood forced him to play that part.), The Wayans brothers (I guess it’s possible that playing white chicks weren’t their idea), Martin (he was well known for doing multiple characters on his hit show, so I doubt he was force to play Big Momma by the Man). And that’s just off the top of my head.


So not counting little known black character actors in TV role or independent movies, Will Smith and Forest Whitaker were the only major movie stars (which neither was at the time) who played gay men.

As for black men with superpowers who are not overshadowed by white predecessors.[By the way, I don’t see Falcon as Captain America’s sidekick. He was inspired to be a superhero who became his partner, but whatever.] I would be ecstatic to see Blue Marvel make it to the big screen. And it was a mistake to not move the Netflix heroes into film, so that Luke Cage could get his shine. But MCU has decided to go with the Eternals instead. And after Nick Fury, War Machine, Falcon and Black Panther (all strong representatives of masculine i.e. “straight” black men), I’m glad I will see a gay black man being a hero, and hopefully not the comic relief kind, either. Besides, I highly doubt Brian Tyree Henry’s going to play Phastos as some effeminate stereotype who’s going to be lisping, and voguing his way across the big screen.

[Midnight_v]

If you want, I can post some dc super heroes too.

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Yeah that really is cool do you have any of Mr. Terrific? I've been looking at his "The terrifics" thread over on the dc board, might as well let him join the team, if we can.

[ed2962]

Well it’s nice to know that black men like me are not proper or that a lot of people in the black community only tolerate black men and barely recognize black trans women as who they are, or believe that black bisexual men don’t exist because they’re really gay. That’s cool.

And it’s sad that Mackie, Cheadle, Jackson or Elba are not shown to be a “proper treatment” of black men on screen, either because they’re not the stars of their own movie yet. I mean, they are pretty weak male role, I guess. :eye-roll: But on your point about Chappelle’s well-crafted skit on black men in Hollywood, I still can’t totally agree with that. Hollywood had a tendency to cast black men as the boogie man or servant more than some gay man devoid of masculinity. And when it came to the drug dealer, pimp, gangsta, or hit man, you could never say they were effeminate roles. Lacking depth, yes, but never effeminate.


I ask again: how many lead or major supporting male roles that black men played were gay or trans? Now how many black comedians played cis woman (who most of the time were older woman who were overweight): Tyler Perry (who made Medea famous on stage way before Hollywood even knew his name), Eddie Murphy (could Hollywood really make him play the mother and the grandmother in the Nutty Professor, or was it his choice to play each character in the Klump family for comedic effect and lets not talk about that monstrosity that was Norbit. But I’m sure white Hollywood forced him to play that part.), The Wayans brothers (I guess it’s possible that playing white chicks weren’t their idea), Martin (he was well known for doing multiple characters on his hit show, so I doubt he was force to play Big Momma by the Man). And that’s just off the top of my head.


So not counting little known black character actors in TV role or independent movies, Will Smith and Forest Whitaker were the only major movie stars (which neither was at the time) who played gay men.

As for black men with superpowers who are not overshadowed by white predecessors.[By the way, I don’t see Falcon as Captain America’s sidekick. He was inspired to be a superhero who became his partner, but whatever.] I would be ecstatic to see Blue Marvel make it to the big screen. And it was a mistake to not move the Netflix heroes into film, so that Luke Cage could get his shine. But MCU has decided to go with the Eternals instead. And after Nick Fury, War Machine, Falcon and Black Panther (all strong representatives of masculine i.e. “straight” black men), I’m glad I will see a gay black man being a hero, and hopefully not the comic relief kind, either. Besides, I highly doubt Brian Tyree Henry’s going to play Phastos as some effeminate stereotype who’s going to be lisping, and voguing his way across the big screen.

It's complicated because while there isn't some Faustian bargain that black men must wear a dress in a movie to become stars in Hollywood, it's undeniable that there's been script and casting changes in any number of movies in order to make the black actor seem non-threatening or the material less "controversial" or to market the movie to make it seems less "black".

Unfortunately, Godfrey plays into the prejudices of the of the perceived audience. "I don't have a problem with gay or trans people, but the community does and I have to think of that." This is the exact same logic that studio heads have used for years for not green lighting black led projects, "We don't have a problem with black leads but it won't play in Peoria" or "The international audience won't come."