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And it's great that you recognize that, as I do as well. But the question is...
will the writers after Hickman write many of the humans into recognizing that and function by modern standards, as opposed to having many of the humans function as if they're still as far back as friggin 1953 when Binder's mutant domination article was published?
Last edited by Electricmastro; 01-07-2020 at 04:54 PM.
And that's where we'll have to see how things unfold. Well said. We're subject to what's written on the page. Do I want to see the mutants take down the humans? No and I don't want to see the mutants continue to suffer either. So it all depends on what picture of humanity they give us.
Thanks for those panels, Lucyinthesky. They warmed my heart.
"Danielle... I intend to do something rash and violent." - Betsy Braddock
Krakoa, Arakko, and Otherworld forever!
That never changed from before Hickman, lol.
Nope, not at all what’s being said. Removing systems of privilege while ensuring protections for oppressed classes isn’t “giving more rights” to anyone. It’s equalizing the playing field and recognizing the systemic discrimination that’s inherent in mostly all institutions. Not just Western institutions but most places that have been ravaged by imperialism.Based on their comments, Tycon & co. view people from historically privileged demographics to be of less value and entitled to fewer rights than minorities. That is, in their view, human rights inversely correlate with privilege. Privilege is inherently evil so historically oppressed minorities are entitled to the most rights; accordingly, people from privileged groups are entitled to the fewest rights or none at all. The long-term objective, then, is to invert the social hierarchy by redistributing privilege from the majority to minorities, achieving social justice. Minorities will at last be rewarded for all their past suffering, and the majority will finally be punished for its historical crimes and oppression. This is a common, though not universal, worldview among intersectional progressives, at least in the U.S.
I’m not sure what’s being said here. The political stances typically taken under liberalism has never been something that guaranteed civil rights or gay rights or trans rights. It has been marketed as a safe but still participatory way to help ease your way into society but change never was pushed under that. In fact, many liberal politicians supported racist and homophobic laws. “Intersectional progressives” (you can just say leftists) have always maintained that privilege needs to first be acknowledged in our systems before we try to enact change lest we repeat the same shit we’ve already been through with a shiny coat of “diversity” or “progressivism” crudely painted over it.What's notable about this is that it's a categorical rejection of democratic liberalism and its core concept of universal human rights as understood in the West since World War II and advocated by liberals up through (in the U.S.) the Obama presidency. In Hickman's X-Men, this break between old-school liberalism and intersectional progressivism is mirrored in Xavier's shift from human-mutant integration to mutant separatist nationalism.
Personally, I don't think Hickman is taking a political stand so much as implementing a radical change to generate dramatic tension, unsettle readers, and increase suspense. In other words, it's a big tease. And, in time as Hickman's overaching plot unfolds, what's really going on behind the scenes will come to the fore, and the focus will shift back to less political, more high-concept action-adventure.
The bottomline: Mutants have to protect themselves, period. But also the bits about the X-Men just waiting for humans to die off so mutants can have the planet is not heroic and doesn't fly when you try to use it as a metaphor.
Genkai nante nai (No limits), Zettai nante nai (No absolutes)
Thank GOD for X'97. Cautious about "From the Ashes". Please no more Blue vs. Orange.
Nothing bad must be allowed to happen to mutants now for any reason EVER. So no to that. If a mutant loses control and kills somebody before he is given control, the victims can always be resurrected if they were mutants. If humans? One step closer to seeing them gone forever.
Genkai nante nai (No limits), Zettai nante nai (No absolutes)
Thank GOD for X'97. Cautious about "From the Ashes". Please no more Blue vs. Orange.
Forced conflict by the writer rehashing the same scene from past stories but dialing the caricature hostility to 11 raised to the power of 11, then having the main characters table the boiling conflict until later on the in the run. BTW, do mutants currently hold only Krakoan citizenship since the start of Dox?
Genkai nante nai (No limits), Zettai nante nai (No absolutes)
Thank GOD for X'97. Cautious about "From the Ashes". Please no more Blue vs. Orange.