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    Default Kazuchika Okada vs. Brock Lesnar

    The Final Boss of NJPW vs. the final boss of WWE.

    Who comes out on top?

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    i'd go with okada. he's wrestled waaaay more as champion, he could take almost anything brock can throw at him and his stamina shits on brock's these days.

    plus, he's wrestled and beaten Shibata, Suzuki, and ibushi. and those guys could destroy brock.

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    Yeah, Brock's nothing Okada hasn't seen before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wjowski View Post
    Yeah, Brock's nothing Okada hasn't seen before.
    i mean if this was brock "i can go hold for hold with prime kurt angle" lesner, then it would be closer but current brock? nope.

    okada got into strike bouts with shibata.

    FRIGGIN SHIBATA!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by master of read View Post
    i mean if this was brock "i can go hold for hold with prime kurt angle" lesner, then it would be closer but current brock? nope.

    okada got into strike bouts with shibata.

    FRIGGIN SHIBATA!!!!
    What if it were Prime Brock vs. Prime Okada?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jcogginsa View Post
    What if it were Prime Brock vs. Prime Okada?
    Brock's still pretty much in his prime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jcogginsa View Post
    What if it were Prime Brock vs. Prime Okada?
    better match but okada still gets the win.

    there is a reason why they call this guy the best wrestler in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by master of read View Post
    i'd go with okada. he's wrestled waaaay more as champion, he could take almost anything brock can throw at him and his stamina shits on brock's these days.

    plus, he's wrestled and beaten Shibata, Suzuki, and ibushi. and those guys could destroy brock.
    I'm not sure a agree hear, classic Brock is way superior to current Brock in terms of actualy wrestling ability and the ability to put on good matches. But in terms of how they are booked current Brock shits all over calssic Brock. So if Okada can beat current Brock, then classic Brock wouldn't be a closer match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastDalek View Post
    I'm not sure a agree hear, classic Brock is way superior to current Brock in terms of actualy wrestling ability and the ability to put on good matches. But in terms of how they are booked current Brock shits all over calssic Brock. So if Okada can beat current Brock, then classic Brock wouldn't be a closer match.
    agree to disagree really. i base it more on the quality of opponents brock fought back then as opposed to now. i mean outside of taker, the only real quality foes brock has beaten were DB and AJ. i would include finn in this but by the time of their match, he was a shell of who he was in both new japan and NXT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by master of read View Post
    agree to disagree really. i base it more on the quality of opponents brock fought back then as opposed to now. i mean outside of taker, the only real quality foes brock has beaten were DB and AJ. i would include finn in this but by the time of their match, he was a shell of who he was in both new japan and NXT.
    Classic Brock had to work to beat mid carders like Bob Holly, Buba Ray Dudley and Test. Modern Brock squashed Cena when he was still Super Cena, Reigns was a nearly invinceble force who the likes of AJ and DB couldn't beat and he got demolished everytime he went up against Lesnar, with his only win coming from a destraction.

    I don't think basing things mainly on actual wrestling avility is the best way to judge these. Because at the end of the day we are judging the feats of the fictional characters they portray rather than the Performers themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastDalek View Post
    Classic Brock had to work to beat mid carders like Bob Holly, Buba Ray Dudley and Test. Modern Brock squashed Cena when he was still Super Cena, Reigns was a nearly invinceble force who the likes of AJ and DB couldn't beat and he got demolished everytime he went up against Lesnar, with his only win coming from a destraction.

    I don't think basing things mainly on actual wrestling avility is the best way to judge these. Because at the end of the day we are judging the feats of the fictional characters they portray rather than the Performers themselves.
    That's true. Lesnar F5d a shark, IIRC. What crazy Kayfabe feats does Okada have?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jcogginsa View Post
    That's true. Lesnar F5d a shark, IIRC. What crazy Kayfabe feats does Okada have?
    he threw hands with the dragon of dojima.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastDalek View Post
    Classic Brock had to work to beat mid carders like Bob Holly, Buba Ray Dudley and Test. Modern Brock squashed Cena when he was still Super Cena, Reigns was a nearly invinceble force who the likes of AJ and DB couldn't beat and he got demolished everytime he went up against Lesnar, with his only win coming from a destraction.

    I don't think basing things mainly on actual wrestling avility is the best way to judge these. Because at the end of the day we are judging the feats of the fictional characters they portray rather than the Performers themselves.
    He allso has wins over big show kurt angle undertaker and the rock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by choptop View Post
    He allso has wins over big show kurt angle undertaker and the rock.
    None of whom were booked to be as unbeatable as Super Cena

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    Quote Originally Posted by choptop View Post
    He allso has wins over big show kurt angle undertaker and the rock.
    Three of those guys also pinned him, Angle in fact made him tap, more than once

    By contrast Lesnar has lost like thrice since he broke the streak

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