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    Quote Originally Posted by Digifiend View Post
    The Champions are the current counterpart of the Teen Titans. New Warriors is the counterpart of the older Titans (and Young Avengers = Young Justice). I would actually say that Defenders and Outsiders are counterparts, though unlike the teen teams, the Marvel one came first. And Atlas? Justice Society.
    Agents of Atlas isn't anything like JSA. Defenders and Outsiders are very dissimilar. Champions are a lot farther from Avengers than TT is from JL.

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    Some concept art for Katana in the Outsiders stories from Future State.

    THE SIGNAL (Duke Thomas) is DC's secret shonen protagonist so I made him a fandom wiki

    also, check out "The Signal Tape" a Duke Thomas fan project.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemonpeace View Post
    Some concept art for Katana in the Outsiders stories from Future State.

    The white look would've been interesting, if a sharp change in color scheme.

    It's almost hard for me to remember Katana used to dress in red and yellow.

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    Tatsu and possibly Jeff in Future State

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    Quote Originally Posted by HandofPrometheus View Post
    Tatsu and possibly Jeff in Future State

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    So it looks like Jeff might have actually ascended to become an energy being made up of black lightning. Wonder what the story behind that is?

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    Black Lightning's time with the Outsiders recieved some focus in "The Other Side of the DC Universe" today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HandofPrometheus View Post
    Tatsu and possibly Jeff in Future State

    please don't be bald in his human form
    Last edited by lemonpeace; 11-24-2020 at 08:21 AM.
    THE SIGNAL (Duke Thomas) is DC's secret shonen protagonist so I made him a fandom wiki

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemonpeace View Post
    please don't be bald in his human form
    Him having a luscious head of hair still would be nice, yes.

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    What’s wrong with bald?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will Evans View Post
    What’s wrong with bald?
    nothing, if you bald shine that bitch up and flaunt that follicle-free dome; I'm just tired of seeing it on black characters in fiction. if I'm being honest I'm tired of the low-cuts too, they both make black characters look super samey out of costume, but at least the low cut I see more often as the default in real life.
    Last edited by lemonpeace; 11-24-2020 at 09:46 AM.
    THE SIGNAL (Duke Thomas) is DC's secret shonen protagonist so I made him a fandom wiki

    also, check out "The Signal Tape" a Duke Thomas fan project.

    currently following:
    • DC: Red Hood: The Hill
    • Marvel: TBD
    • Manga (Shonen/Seinen): One Piece, My Hero, Dandadan, Jujutsu Kaisen, Kaiju No. 8, Reincarnation of The Veteran Soldier, Oblivion Rouge, ORDEAL, The Breaker: Eternal Force

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will Evans View Post
    What’s wrong with bald?
    Like lemonpeace said, wanting something other than bald as a hairstyle for Black male fictional characters doesn't mean we find bald for Black men bad, especially in real life.

    But in fiction, it would just be nice to see Black male characters (regardless of fictional age) have cool and widespread hairstyles that are afforded to other characters of fiction. Fictional character take advantage of their position with everything; you can get away with stuff you can't do (period or feasibly) in real life. So I would just like fictional Black males to take advantage of that more often then they do.

    It also doesn't help when you realize that it seems a lot of artists go on as if bald or crew-cut are the only Black male hairstyles that exists. (I read a thing that went over how so many artists are just plain ignorant on how to draw Black hairstyles, especially Black male ones.) Like lemonpeace alluded to, it has the tendency to make Black male characters appear too similar when they aren't wearing their costumes that help differentiate their appearances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HandofPrometheus View Post
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    I hope there's more design work with his form here and he's not just Ultimate Electro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will Evans View Post
    What’s wrong with bald?
    Most of the time it's default look.

    While JD has mentioned artists-you also have to look at toy makers.

    Take Static's hair-you would have to do one of the following-

    1) make a new mold
    2) buy a mold from some else (see the new Zack head from Power Rangers-he has dreads. Jack from SPD does too and you have of Devon of Beast Morphers. Same issue with Blue Wild Force ranger if he gets one)

    Most don't want to do either one. Because they cost. They want to reuse stuff.

    That is why you see movie Miles, Killmonger and Boseman's figures with the same heads.
    Even We Are Robin's Duke and Wallace West had to get new heads made.

    So that is part of the reason we see certain looks. As Annoying as it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemonpeace View Post
    please don't be bald in his human form
    That's fair and all I was thinking is "hey, Tatsu and Jeff are interacting in a book I'm already buying. This is going to be fun!"

    I will admit I think bald is my least favorite look for Jeff. It's just the least interesting of his looks that I can recall, though now I'm wondering what my favorite visual for him is and it might just be Cress Williams on the CW series... Because Cress is a damn fine Black Lightning. Even in those goofy costumes they give him.

    Comics wise, I don't think he's got his perfected, iconic look yet. Some good ones, but nothing where I'm happy to keep it forever (like Huntress Rebirth, which has never looked cooler).

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    I thought the bald look worked well in the DC Nation shorts, but I'm not dedicated to it.

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